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Interesting, thanks. I suppose there may be tweaks to the list, but it’s a good overview.

The distance between 2A6 and 2A7V is enormous (perhaps some variants of 2A4 and 2A5 could further increase the gap).

Doesn’t 2A7+ refer to a set of options/upgrades available for the 2A7 according to the requirements of different armies?

And the BR difference is 0.3. ;)

Basicaly yeah, it stands for the modularity of all possible leopard upgrade options, that being said the german tested version only had the L/55 gun among other things

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I’m looking at the characteristics of the 2A7V and it’s impossible for it to fit without it being completely BROKEN.

You mean its characteristics that are seen on SEP 2 & T-90M?
Armor, good round, and gen 2+ thermals…
The good round & good gen thermals are already seen on M1A2, 2A6, etc.

another tank that we might be able to add is the Leopard MBT Technologieträger (advanced technology demonstrator)

Dont think that exact version is in service anywhere
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@Toxindragon or what do you think?

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the 2a7V is a good bit stronger then the standard T90M

I excluded it because it’s based on a 2A4 and they wanted the starting point to be the 2A6.

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Uh, it is. Just nerf the hell out of it (Puma basically).

ah i would let it count, because it basicaly gets similar capabilities to a 2a6

They’re gen 3s.

The + means “and higher”.

Just say GEN 3s lol. Don’t overcomplicate mate :p

SEP 2 will run gen 2s as an example.

Fair enough.

Okay here’s my opinion on how capable these tanks would be in War Thunder:

2A6M
2A6
2A6A1 (command tank)
2A6M+
2A6(M)A2
2A7
2A7+ UrbOps
2A6(M)A3
VT-ETB
VT-ETB II (early)
Evolution
TVM max L/55
2A6EX Demo 1
Revolution
2A6EX Demo 2
PSO-VT
2A7+
2A7V
VT-ETB II (late)
ATD
KF-51

Future vehicles:
2A7A1
2A8
2AX

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Can we get the Hummel now

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it shows quite nicely how huge the jump is, and makes me question why gajin couldnt have added any of those other versions a tad bit earlier. Basicaly i need to rush researching the 2A/, because any new tank would be put before the 2A7V

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That’s the strange part innit. We could’ve progressed like this 2A6 - > 2A6MA3 (actual upgrade) - > 2A6EX Demo I or II (actual upgrade) - > 2A7V (again, an upgrade).

Instead we got this;
2A6 - > PSO (downgrade from even the 2A5) - > 2A7V (massive jump in capability if implemented properly).

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well thats because gajin fucked up whith the model once again, it is supposed to be a minimal upgrade over the 2a5