German players complaining about not getting stuff is rich when they had access to Tow2A long before America and the German owned US vehicles are all better than the US counter parts.
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There is a difference between weapons and vehicles. Italy for example owned a plane first with german fire bombs.
Germany has 2 american tanks which are better the m41 and m48. There is an even better m41 in the chinese tech tree and the difference between the m48 is not much.
Now with more bundles for vehicles. US should get the other m48 and m41 late.
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This i do not agree with, the PSO is an upgrade, it gets extra hull armor of the swedish tanks + extra side armor + 3rd gen thermals, that is a big upgrade compared to the old leopard tanks
The Problem with the PSO is that the model is bugged and that the turret is floating
The rest i roughly agree with you
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It does not get the extra hull armour of the Strv122s, where did you see that? It’s not even in the modifications tab. Also do you have screenshot or timestamp of the thermals?, because I don’t remember them using the thermals at all with the PSO.
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because it is no modification, it has it equipped from the start, and they said it is 3rd gen thermals
The ATTICA 3rd gen imager was tested on the PSO, and is a drop in replacement for the EMES 15 thermal imager
The PSO getting gen 3 thermals was a mistake on Mike’s part it seems because it has gen 1 gunner thermals on the dev server. It didn’t have gen 3 thermals irl so this wouldn’t make sense either.
It’s added armour is mostly useless, the side armour should only provide about 300mm of CE protection and it’s missing the important part at the front.
In my opinion, the PSO should get the option to replace the dozer with more add-on D-Tech armour, which it could do irl. This would make it only slightly better than the Strv 122.
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The German m48 is not better than the american one btw, neither is the m41 since its a higher br, just traded the BR for the one heat shell which isn’t even that good.
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Not sure about the thermals but it does NOT have the armour, its been replaced for the dozer. Look closely.
Edit: better angle
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it ahs the upgraded hull armor, the lower part were the dozer blade is mounted isnt extra armored yes, but the upper part towards the turret has the increased armor plates
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Leopard 2 PSO never ever entered service so invalid point…
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That armour plate does protect somewhat better than the current German leopards, but not by a significant margin after testing with the strv 122
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The German TT would be a good TT if Germany received the vehicles that were used in a real implementation
But we do not!
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That would be based actually
but I agree with the post
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it was considered from what I know the KF41 has not been considered, and even then if we go with “germany made it so it should have it” where are all the Italian helis? ffs the swedish starter heli is an Augusta-Bell Huey the 205 if I recall but Italy does not get theirs, germany gets the R/3 where is the Italian one? see double standards get ya cornered
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I would like to say openly and honestly, in recent years there have been some disappointments from a German perspective.
But what is happening in this update is a slap in the face, a real insult to the German players!
How is this supposed to go on?
Nice looking vehicles that never got beyond the experimental stage, made of mild steel!
There are enough vehicles that have been and are being used. When will we finally get these vehicles in a realistic implementation?
What are you doing to us?
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Does it matter if it was considered or not? It was considered but Puma was choosen in last minute because of better armor (Which is still broken in WT, the lynx has ingame better armor then the Puma which shouldn’t be the case)
Even then,
2s38 is russian right? Yes, was it ever in service? No, still added? Yes.
Leopard 2PSO is german right? Yes, was it ever in service? No, still added? Yes.
Lynx is german right? Yes, was it ever in service? No, still added? No(atleast not forgermany)
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The PSO has worse performance of its UFP armor than the STRV-122 despite being numerically identical. Test its performance against DM-33.
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The Germans only get garbage, now it’s getting really ridiculous. The Germans get tanks without armor haahahh just boring
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Where’s the evidence it was ever pitched to Germany let alone considered by them given the PUMA entered service a year before this was unveiled?