Correct. We’ve dugged up 3 different primary sources all mentioning a weight range of ~170g for the penetrator alone, and recently I’ve got my hands on an x-ray image of the tungsten rod itself, measured it, and then calculated its weight, got 169g.
That was later reported directly to Smin by @MythicPi if I remember correctly.
idk if i ever brought that up directly to Smin, I did directly bug report the LFP via PM’s with Smin which was appended to another WO according to him, I also provided updated info about the UFP array.
For those wondering why I bug reported the LFP via DM’s to Smin, the new bug report platform is poorly laid out for bug reports discussing a high number of visual proof, which was the case for the LFP, so I had to ask and got approval to bug report via DM’s on the old forum.
For those interested. Here’s the x-ray of PMC287.
since then new sources were provided with specific reports about the penetrator weight. It is part of the multiple internal Puma reports that exist
The penetrator is totally the same weight as the much smaller and lighter sabot.
Still waiting(hoping) that theyre doing a full rework of it and thats why its taking so long to fix.
Most logical assumption and reason as to why the Puma S1 is still missing imo. Particularly since last i had talked to smin about it, all the bug reports remained open and/or had been merged into other reports discussing similar issues with portions of the vehicle.
found the picture of the list they gave us, this list was given us by one of the moderators about the current internal reports
ditto , that and better give us the Puma VJTF , the Puma S1 realy never made it as far as i am aware , they directly jumped to the upgraded version, i think it gets the mg4 as secondary internal weapon as well
i dont get how they still havent fixed these, its been about a year and a half now. The weight of the penetrator should just be a simple value change, no?
It took them around 3 years to fix the weight of CV9040s APFSDS weight, so uhhh.
like i said the Penetrator is balancing, everything else requries heavy remodelling of the vehicle
Keep in mind some of those reports (at least from the explanation I got) contain other reports mixed into them. I assume my report regarding the LFP got mixed in with the “Missing 50mm anti-mine plate” one
Also, that list is from Smin, it was a convo between us when I asked what was the state of the Puma bug reports, for those who want some extra confirmation about the validity
Incorrect. This isn’t about balancing, this is them being lazy.
tbf, a full reowork of a vehicle like is basicly needed here is not something they fix overnight. Id prefer if they trickle fed us the fixes, but seeing as im assuming theyre reworking the whole thing for the addition of the S1, this kinda makes sense too.
I think it’s more like they’re being selectively blind/deaf… Kinda like government employees, but somehow worse.
They’re probably employed by the Kremlin so it kinda makes sense…
there is so many quotes i have to keep track of , i lose my mind about who stated which information sometimes xD
Makes me wonder whether it’s worth making a new bug report o PMC287, since we have the x-ray of it, estimating has become significantly easier.
note: the dimensions and weight estimated are 99.9% correct, when I plug my numbers into L-O, it returns 121mm of flat perforation at 10 meter distance/0 degree angle. So this is 100% what Gaijin used.
Might be due to the smoothness of the metal and the quality of the paint and paint application. Like any coating or different primers used. Those factors can play a big role in how shiny and bright paint looks. Like the same color tone on a $20,000 car is going to look far brighter and shinier on a $200,000 car simply due to the techniques used in application.
