Lets Talk About The Object 279 Issue. Currently 5.8+ KDR on Average

It is an issue, that russian ammo doesn’t detonate but others do. Its an advantage that shouldn’t exist.

Has anyone ever actually explained that?





The “DetonateProb” variable across each tank.
The M60s, Abrams, T-64s, KPZ70, MBT-70 are all “.5”
All Leopards, T-72 >=, T95e1, M48, etc are all “.15”

Russian ammo does detonate, just as all the rest do. occasionally you will get a bug where it doesnt, but this bug can happen to any vehicle and does. It is a mix of several different things that makes people believe that russian ammo doesnt detonate, and a major one of those things is confirmation bias

It was datamined, which means there is no context for it. for all we know there could actually be other hidden modifiers that effect the probablility of ammo detonation, but those numbers alone, prove nothing, especially as it isnt just russia with the 0.15

It is because its real name is the 9P157 and here you go for the Khriz:

" “ammo”: {
“combustionTime”: 10.0,
“detonateProb”: 0.15,
“detonatePortion”: ["

if i would want that i would ask for the maus to be 6.3 or 6.3 or tiger 2h 6.0 is36.0 is4m 6.7 t32e1 6.7
And many more heavys that suffer the fate of getting point and clicked by atgms or heat-fs apds and hesh ( yes i know hesh isnt that great ^^)

no but if i play vs a tank that will lol pen me even 2km out while i have to aim for a small weakspot, if i want that i would drive my panzer 2h vs t90 all day long.

It really is sad how much better the aim of players currently playing Soviet tanks are.
Everyone should be forced to play against KV-1Es using M4A2s & vice-versa until they’re good at shot placement, then T-80 players would face equally skilled opponents at the least.

A bit off topic.
That come from this bug report about TOW-2B
TOW-2B not detonating ammo
There are mutiple hit on ammo in carousel show in video. not just the one in fuel tank stowage.
However their answer were about ammo in fuel tank stowage and nothings else. which isn’t the main point of bug report trying to represent.

Still wet stowage didn’t completely prevent fires, it delayed the onset of full combustion. It was safe in the sense that it bought the crew time to get out and protect ammo from small fragment or small heat jet, not that it self-extinguished nor that it made ammo become immune from cook off. There are a reason why blow out penel exist.

Another bug report that got reply with “Working as intended”

Both Bug report got close.

It’s true that ammunition burning change are similar across the board. But the reason that Soviet MBTs got point out the most are becasue of their ammo carousel which often got hit more than others. So you can guess which vehicles would benefit from this the most.


hasnt it been facing those exact tanks since release now? Bar the leopard1 beause germans managed to downtier it to 7.3?

you can drive tigers vs jumbos, or tigers vs downtiered t26e5 or t-34 vs tiger 2h.
Hell T44 vs T26e5, Panther II vs t26e5. IS 3 vs panther F

Downtiered Heavy is almost impenetrable more news at 6pm

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except last time it got uptiered because it was just the usual ru playstyle, brain off and press W for win

Hodl W is only for top tier especially the T-72s bro, since you can’t even reverse, the only way is to move forward bro

Can we just ignore thunderskill, the thing is clearly completely broken and dominating 7.7s like nobody’s business, or higher than 7.7. It’s practically unkillable by most vehicles of said BR. This thing needs fixing ASAP. I see 3.0 KD on it a LOT.


The snail doesn’t care, because its russian. The 2S38 has been at way too low a BR since its release. But premium russian tanks typically do not get their BR fixed. It could get a nuke every round and they would leave it there.


thats the excuse every russian main says " MUH REVERSE SPEED "

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Lvkv 9040C shares 10.0 trading APFSDS for a search radar.
According to you, Swedish tanks also don’t get “their BR fixed”.

Reverse speed shouldn’t even be considered. That is a feature intentionally designed into their tanks.

You should tell that to a majority of this games player base. I’ve been told over the last 5 + years that thats why russian tanks are Lower BR’s They literally continue to say this every single time anyone brings up an issue with the over tiering of numerous Nato and ESP British/ American tanks.

I mean… how else are they going to explain having tanks at lower BRs than they should be. They have to use some lame excuse. Meanwhile the rest of us are told “just flank” despite russian tanks being faster. And “learn to aim” despite russian tanks getting rounds with 25%-50% better pen at the same BR and auto loaders that cannot be damaged.

And no russian player can explain to me why they get the darts at T1 mod and LRF at T2 mods when all my tanks require that to be T4… How is that balance?

It is truly stupid.


Reverse speed is almost never a factor in BRs.
Otherwise T-72B3 would be 11.0 instead of 11.3 as an example.
Sometimes they can be a reason, such as with some Panthers.