Lets Talk About The Object 279 Issue. Currently 5.8+ KDR on Average

Ah yes, because every player is bad, not the tank is overpowered.

Or maybe ATGMs are very loud, easy to dodge, on AWFUL platforms, underperform in postpen, and are constantly being nerfed further. Now we have atgms that wobble in flight and atgm carriers that have their crosshairs offset from their target. I don’t understand this game’s obsession with nerfing the worst performing mechanics of the game after they ave been identified as bad (HE, HESH, APCR, APDS, AP (non HE), and ATGMs).

im not saying the players are bad im just saying that they don’t want to adapt. If there is a t28, t34 oder tiger2h downtiered you take a bomb and kill it as your first priority. Same as you focus the best player in the enemy team.

Whats so difficult doing the same with a russian heavy, they don’t have insane aa cover at that br, worse than other nations even.

APCR and APDS aren’t bad, once again players use them expecting to be able to ohk everything with a shot trough the center of the enemy tank when these are especially the rounds that trade damage for pen and damage for reload.

Nice straw man. Last 3 trees i’ve been grinding are french, then china, then some more brits. Go look at the old forum, i’ve been critical about the BR drop for years and advocating for the leo to be placed higher than completely inferor AMX30 that was at 7.7. You are the one advocating for curb stomping teams based on the mechanics of the tanks not the skill of the players.

Is Maus overpowered in a downtier?
Similar relative protection against 1.0 BR less than it.

I wonder why…

Maybe because the way HE works is by seeking weak points. Because of the extremely high lower armor of the 279, its VERY resistant to bombs.

APCR and APDS ARE bad because you are shooting them rather than APHE against targets that can often re-crew in the same time as your reload rate. Killing one crewman a shot isn’t a viable way to play vs tanks that OHK you back with APHE.

Maus has a 220mm turret face, is HUGE, has a glacial turret rotation, arctic reload rate, and is loud as hell.

Again, the maus has DISADVANTAGES. the 279 operates like a MBT for almost all situations and has none of the detractors heavy tanks usually face. In a downteir, it curb stomps. In an upteir, its an average russian MBT with a bit more lethality and a bit less pen.

Talk about “skill of the players”, but proceed to avoid competition by suggesting something that gave you trouble should moved up so you are less likely to face it. Ok bro mentions skills but wants an easy way out lol

avoid competition? With what, the Chieftan? You think that its seriously the benchmark for the quality of tanks at 8.7? Man you are a strange person. Tank is obviously overperforming, you even talk about easily generating nukes with it. Did you consider i don’t want to face overpowered tanks every game? Did it cross your mind that i’m looking for… balance? Because even part of your own brain is acknowledgeing this thing isn’t on a level playing field.

I have dropped more nukes in the King Tiger in a downtier than in Object 279, I am getting nukes so much easier in a King Tiger downtier compared to Object 279, maybe King Tiger 7.7 confirmed bro. Instead of acknowledging the issues is the current matchmaking affected by player counts on specific br/country which constantly matches you up against +.7/+1 br opponents, you have to fixate on a heavy tank in a full downtier match, most heavy tanks slay in a full downtier, why should the Object 279 lose that ability just because you said so? (as if things it faced don’t reload as quickly and moves as quicky). Furthermore coming from someone who has so many skill issues thinking the Object is invincible LoL. Bro a heavy tank is a heavy tank, doesn’t matter if it strapped a fusion engine on it doesn’t suddenly lose that armor. It’s one of a kind in the br and there is no fair comparison to it, maybe there are other heavy tanks at 8.7 I didn’t know. I’ve killed this ufo thing every day in my DF105, most of them like to shoot me in the engine, and for some reason the 130mm is always stuck in the engine blocks while my crews in the turret still remain uninjured and allow it to fire every 5 seconds, some of them ufos took 6 hits before death while other die in the first shot to the ufp. I think the DF105 should move up to 8.7 because it’s super quick, murdering the T-55 variants (got a triple T-55 kills like four days ago) like they are trash tier tanks and also can solo the Object 279 which seems made it seems like a mediocre tank when you carry HEAT or HEATFS. Imagine calling people strange while the entire thread is flooded with your tears.

Unlike most opponents the 279 is forced to face at 9.7, it does not have Thermals, laser rangefinder or apfsds. The speed also starts to be lacking against wheeled vehicles like Rooikat and Type 16 fps

You realize the Maus is more available than the Obj 279, right? You can still get the Maus. The 279 was a one time event vehicle.

THB, the Leopard 1 like mobility of the Object is hard to grasp. For such a heavy armor the combination of protection and mobility is impossible imho. I just can’t imagine that this thing accelerates and turns that fast. Also the reload…

I am not so sure about this Classification of an Exclusive Vehicle. The 279 is tradeable and thus still aviable. One Time would in my opinion mean a Vehicle that only shows up once and is then wasted, because it did not get a Coupon. Examples are the E.B.R 1954, Ka-Chi, T55E1

Its not available to everyone. The Maus is.

Okay, the Maus is more obtainable, so fair enough.

Ah yes, the heavy tank isn’t good because it lacks the mobility of a rooikat… Is that your argument? How do ppl type this and take themselves seriosuly?
Almost all 8.7s don’t get thermals.
APHE> APFSDS for similar pen. APHE will almost always have better postpen and the ability to hit a drive wheel around a corner and OHK a vehicle is truly invaluable. APFSDS will have better slope mods, but there isn’t a vehicle up to 9.3 that the obj has to do more than slight aiming.

Except that it has the same balance issue while being added after the removal of the Maus.

The Maus was removed in name only. You can still get it but it’s not available all the time. You can research it every year.

That’s not my point. The removal of the Maus was a big step as it meant that some tanks coulc be removed if too hard to balance or too unhistorical.
But then right after that, they introduce yet another tank impossible to balance. Just why ?

Because of hypocrisy and double standards.