Let's discuss the current state and future of the Chinese faction

This doesn’t happen every time, but the probability of VT4’s death in this case is almost one hundred percent. Of course, the steering machine is an extremely irritating problem for the M1, I know that

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I think that all turntable autoloaders should be uniformly accelerated, 7.1 becomes 6.5, and 6.5 becomes 6.0. I can barely fucking stand this reload speed in today’s game! Anyone is faster than me! (Yes, I have both Russia tanks and Chinese tanks)

Italy (not including the 1x Leopard), Britain, Israel, China

None of their “top tier” MBTs should have been moved up to 12.0. None can compete.
Whilst France, USA and Japan have okay MBTs that can cope, they dont fair that much better.

Sweden, Germany and Soviets (and i suppose technically Hungary could be added to that list) are the only nations with competitive top tier tanks at the moment.

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The extra armor they give is too much survivability for such speeds (plus 6.5 seconds is the fastest the autoloaders go, at least on the Russian side of things).


one shotted with only loader dying (random BS)

Did your ammo cook off by any chance?

yes (still doesnt explain crew knock out)

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I think that message bugs out sometimes. I’ve seen crew knockout when it was a fuel explosion that killed me.

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Even if we do not discuss the shortcomings of Chinese tanks, this slowest reloading is very deadly. If you are skilled enough, then the approach to the BVM/90M/L2A7/122 is the same - shoot the lower part of the hull. But NATO tank reloading is much faster! I can say this: with Soviet tanks or Chinese tanks, I can fight better with NATO tanks.

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I was almost tormented crazy in yesterday’s game, everyone knew my weaknesses, and no one was going to shoot solid frontal armor. In the past, at least some tanks were slower than me, and I could have survived the battle, but now there is no such possibility, unless the opponent has a skill issue

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The top-tier Chinese vehicles in War Thunder are not strong enough to justify their current placement at BR 12.0. They suffer from slow reload times, low ammunition penetration, and poor protection (with a significant weak spot at the lower glacis, and recently the upper glacis armor was nerfed as well). Their mobility is only slightly better (the VT4A1’s mobility isn’t good either).

I believe that either these Chinese vehicles should be buffed (faster reload times, increased APFSDS penetration, and better protection), or if there’s a reluctance to buff them, their BR should be lowered to better reflect their actual performance in the game.

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people always complain about Abrams poor armor. but now, the armor of VT4 and 99A is worse than that of Abrams.
and the firepower is also the worst. only 577+7.1. reports of armor errors were also denied.


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There’s more pennable area on the Abrams’ UFP, plus you have to factor in the autobounces into the turret ring (plus the right turret cheek can be penned by DM53, with a low chance though).

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This is actually only true if the cheek is angled in such a way that it is at a flatter angle for the incoming projectile.

But for a situation as in the above poster screenshot, DM53 won’t pen the right turret cheek. Not even a low chance, it just isn’t happening.

It is both unbalanced and unreal. It makes China’s top-level vehicles so bad. Normally, gaijin puts forward suggestions and ignores them. Games are not played. All kinds of data are purely based on imagination, prejudice and discrimination. The balance is based on the sparse sample size. If there is less prejudice and discrimination, gaijin can earn more money than before. It is really prejudice that exceeds his own interests.

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In fact, I think the M1 is a tank that is somewhere between the best and the worst. It is better than the tanks of China, France, United Kingdom, Italy and Israel, but worse than the BVM and 122/A7V. If gaijin had made the Chinese tanks have the same firepower as the M1, maybe there would not have been so many complaints.

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Perhaps the turntable loader should be given a modification called “High Voltage Motor” to make the 7.1/6.5 faster

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there is no doubt that China power supply system is better than Russia’s. Its power can support the laser system.
In theory, this can enable the loader to operate at a faster speed.
another difference is that the ammunition selection system used in the 99A is digitize. It is also faster than the traditional T series.
this also shortens the ammunition selection time.

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I mean, the Abrams might be the best of the non-German/Swedish/Russian tanks, but that isn’t saying much. Especially when the gap between the Abrams, Leclerc, Challenger 2 (some of them), and the top tier Chinese tanks (more than one model) isn’t very big at all. The Merkava and Ariete are very bad though.

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The gap between the 11.7+ Abrams and any CR2/3 is considerable.

I assume you got this from your wisdom of watching youtube videos?