Let us disable enemy decorators and bushes

you cant plaster those on your tank though, and you cant buy them to bully new players

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But experienced players will use this too, as advantage against new players.

And ULQ players have also an advantage against regular setting players, do you want to ban them too?

So the hole discussion is pure whataboutism…

Do you know the difference between having a paid for advantage that is always available no matter what versus a map object being used for cover

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You can get them for free through warbonds…

Sure, you can get them at a rate where it takes years to complete a set, or you can pay GE and get it instantly. You also don’t pick which bush you get so have fun when you grind for 12 months straight no breaks to get the 5 smallest bushes they can give you.

Are you against being able to turn them off?

Maybe switch them off in arcade, but not in sim or realistic. But in arcade it doesn’t matter, because you have the green cross marker…

Because in real you cover tanks too, and these two modes are realistic ones…

so then, doesnt that mean that you shouldnt give veteran EVEN MORE advantage? I mean i guess you could let that slip if the game had balance by ratings… but it does not

Why?

So you are not arguing that it does not provide an advantage…

As I mentiond before, these are no arcade style modes, you have also no markers for the enemy. And in sim when you add the bush wrong you can’t use the gunner view, or commander ones

Sure but like I said, this means you aren’t arguing it isn’t an advantage. I am arguing that not only is it an advantage but it is prohibitively difficult to get an effective set of bushes versus just buying them.

Can ask the same about thermal view? There are BR ranges where only some tanks have it, while the others not

That is a modification in game versus what we are talking about, a GE upgrade.

This is balanced by other characteristics. Vehicles are the sum of all of their parts, not just one of their parts or the lack thereof singled out.

And again, you are able to get them for free…

tho it usually does exactly that, even if its bad

And you always mentioned new players, how many level 10 or less players are buying top tier stuff and than get only stomped into the ground?
They don’t know the gameplay very well, doesn’t matter with or without bushes …
In my opinion there are bigger problems, then this hole bushes thing…

is there the way rn?
Back in the day yes, you can grind events to sell machines and get GEs, but now grinding to sell makes it easier for bots and discriminatively hard for real players :/

And again:

The overwhelming majority of people do not have time to grind for bushes and even grinded effectively your chances of getting a “matching” set to make it work well is low.

tho they are more likely to meet bushes if they buy starter packs or new “3 machine” packs. And many newbies actually do buy them

You should play more toptier, after the sale so many Leo2A4, T80U, and M1A2 and others, as new players are around…

Yes, in the actual BP warbond shop you can get one again. So it’s possible, if you want, and not only arguee against…