Let’s talk about the Chieftain

The fact you claim you shot the dude 8 times and penetrated the armour says otherwise buddy.
That sings skill issue

Rather than get upset or feel insulted, just go learn about the tanks, you cannot have shot the enemy crew positions 8 times, with even an aced reload of 6.1 seconds it adds up to over a minute. which no crew replacement is that slow.

Not at all, but you are here telling us how a T55 can survive all these hits when you barely play a BR to fight them, as well as that youre telling us that it took over 8 penetrating hits to take out a T55Am1? from the SIDE

that itself says it all

It’s weird on any tank you face.

Never tried it on AM-1 and AMD, but we can test it out.

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Really? So if you shoot an enemy in the same spot where you previously destroyed half of his crew and you don’t kill him in the following shots, it’s a skill issue.

The funny thing about the situation was that, I expected that by changing the crew the next shot would kill him, but no, the bullets began to penetrate and disappear without causing any damage.

I’m pretty used to fighting T-54s, T-55As, AM-1s, and AMDs, since they’re tanks that you see a lot in Br 7.3, 7.7, and 8.0 games, which are the ones I’ve been playing lately. I know where to shoot each of those tanks, just as I know that both the AM-1 and AMD are immune to the first APDS, except the M728. You only pierce them like the L28 does in the lower part of the hull and the front of the turret that isn’t protected. The same thing happens if you shoot it with the HEAT-FS. The AMD can also stop the M109’s shells with its APS. I know that the front fuel tank is capable of stopping the damage of many bullets, so you have to shoot where the driver is.
I know a lot about tanks that I don’t even have. The problem is when the game’s programming makes that knowledge useless.
I also know that against the Israeli M111 the AM-1’s armor is useless, since it kills them up to 1.9km.



You can only drill it if it is going down a slope, and logically, since it has little depression, a player with a T-55 will try to avoid going up and down slopes, always looking for the flattest areas to avoid suffering from the depression of the cannon.

No that just is a lie. It is statistically and literally impossible to do what you are saying.

Then you were not shooting the same spot, you had obviously changed where you were aiming for them to hit a void space. Regardless of the fact to shoot a damn T55 8 times and not kill it is pathetic at best.

no they arent ? unless at extreme angles… I excusively play between 7.7 and 9.7 mate I fight them constantly the projection anylisis is not highly accurate at all.

Thats because its DM23 a 195 angle pen dart. Not an APDS round.

The fuel tank contains teh ammunition, it detonated 90 percent I think it is of the time you hit it.

Apparently not if it takes you over 8 shots to kill any tank side on.

Hardly, they consistenly dont go for flat areas, also you are not taking into account the fact a leopard 1 gun does not sit level with a T55AM1 hull, it sits above it shooting down onto it. same as almost all nato tanks sit at a higher level than it.

@MotorolaCRO what you reckon?

Don’t know, I think it’s best to test it out on a flat area from several ranges.

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I wouldn’t say it’s impossible. Bugs and stuff happen. Saw a video the other day of two guys shooting at each other but there was an invisible helicopter wreck between them (seen from the replay)

It’s very unlikely but weird stuff happens. We’ve all had non penetrating shots which most definitely should have penetrated and will do on hit analysis. Hell, I non-penned a bmp-1 from the side with a chieftain apds once.

So yeah, not likely but it could happen.

These are things that tend to happen a lot in this game, even more so after adding armor and volumetric bullets.
It’s clear that the 8-shot situation is clearly a bug, either in the game or the server, and that it’s extremely rare, but the cases where the bullets inexplicably miss do happen quite often, which causes you to reload at best and kill that enemy, or at worst and more common, that the enemy shoots back and kills you.

8 rounds through the side of someone is not something ive ever seen in over 3k hours, not unless the person cannot actually aim properly.

Now if you have nothing more to say about chieftain, stop its too off topic

Bug that happens for eight (8) shots in a row is absolutely wild and I haven’t seen anything even close to that personally.

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Me neither, lol.

We’ve all had instances of “why won’t you die!” When shooting at stuff. I’ve been the one not dying before, it happens. My favourite was I was in a black prince and surrounded by about 6 enemy tanks. It took a good 4 minutes for me to finally die.

So yeah, if this did happen it’s at the very top end of fuckery.

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That’s just UK bias.

That is a totally different circumstance the black prince is extremely armoured for its BR

That’s more impressive than the 8 APDS. Knowing that the Black Prince is Br 6.0, it will mainly encounter tanks with APHE, and those bullets do not miss (in truth they do miss, but very little).

To be fair, it was a down tier, lol.

I ended up giving them tips on where to shoot as it was getting a bit boring after a while.

It doesnt matter if they miss, if the people shooting them dont know where to aim to be pen it.

Exactly my point.
Ive seen a tiger 1 bounce L27A1 from a challanger 2 before that I had fired at it, due to volumetric, but that doesnt suddenly mean the tiger can go toe to toe with a CR2 xD

The T55AM1 or AMD1 will not survive 8 shots to the side from the 105 APDS on the british centurion at all, its a ridiculous statement and bold claim to make, unless you admit you fired into a void 7 times.

even 3BM8 which is the T54 APDS would kill it in two shots… at this is at a 70 degree angle to try get that driver gunner like youre saying.

If we use our eyes, here we see the 3BM8 a substantially worse round than the L28A1 cutting clean through the side and killing two crew members, injuring a third and actually blowing up the fuel / ammo in the front right corner of the tank.

Well, that time a T-55A did withstand those shots. As I said, it was only that time, and it was clearly some kind of game glitch, but it happened.

Well, I have had an APDS-FS stop an M22, or an APDS stop an M18, and an infinite number of absurd bounces that occur in this game.

Sir, there is skill to learn for you:


Oh look, a shot I’ve made countless times in my Chieftain Mk3 [I don’t have the Mk5 at this time].

I’ve never used more than 2 shots against any tank when using my Chieftains, not even Radkampfwagen, and that thing’s empty.

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