I trust the Protection analysis about as much as I trust Gaijin to model MANPADs fairly. According to it, the ERA on the T-80BVM, can be penned at some angles. In reality… L27A1 cannot pen it at all, at any angle. Im not entirely sure it should be considered a trusted source of information
Here my Pars-3 hits the cabin of the russian AA truck. Just the driver dies. You simply can’t kill it with Pars. Its like compartimentized as a battleship and every compartment of that truck eats any damage. Its so frustrating. When a Vikhr hits my Leopard, its always game over from overpressure alone. But here not even their truck is alowed to die.
You can always hand it over to Gaijin and get it buffed. There are always soft stats that Gaijin can use to balance it.
50k repair cost and an 8 second ace reload honestly seem like a decent neef to compensate for the armor and acceleration buff reports you guys are working on :)
like DEFYN likes to say…
L BOZO
It’s a game, why are you so hate ridden against specifically Germany? You never bring anything constructive to any argument, instead it’s always a shit flinging contest with you. Grow up?
It’s about armour btw :)
Aceeleration ain’t getting fixed though.
Devs are salty that the T90M has such a shit transmission, they aim to keep every other tank down
Unfortunate from an authenticity pov, but fortunate from a balance pov. Not 100% sure which side I lean towards.
However with the performance of the 2A7V and all 122s, I think a temporary reload reduction to 6.7 would be better for the game. Just like they did when the 2A5/6 and 122s were stomping equally hard.
It can be worked around if you don’t take the mineplate (then they’re slightly slower to accerlate than 122s), although from the authenticity PoV it’s pretty sad…
2A7V and 122 are not stomping because of the tanks tho
It pisses me off that they need classified docs to make a simple change to the acceleration. Since there are so many sources that claim it has the same mobility as the LEO 2A4, can’t they chart the 2A4s acceleration and work backwards from there? Use that acceleration as a base to figure out the appropriate gear ratio for the 2A7V?
Unnecessary
It was other that gaijin need to correct not leo get nerf
Also leo2A7v are not even it finish state
The tanks are absolutely a significant part of the reason lol. I have both the SEPv2 and 2A7V, the former fully spaded with an expert crew and the latter almost spaded with a non experted crew.
Honestly the 2A7V is just leagues better than the SEPv2, there isn’t even a conpetition when it comes to how both perform in game and against eachother.
Now imagine tanks like the Merkava Mk.4, Leclercs, Challengers and Arietes that are even worse than the SEPv2.
It’s already incredibly dominant in it’s unfinished state.
And like I said, I would prefer other nations being buffed up to the same level as the 2A7V and Strv 122s, but that will take time. And leaving current top tier as is, is also not healthy.
All Merkava Mk.4 getting their armor buffed up to what the LIC used to have.
Arietes getting their armor buffed to what are apparently correct and/or finally getting their well deserved BR decreases.
Fixes for all the issues regarding the Challies.
Better rounds for the Leclercs and fixes to their issues (I know of the reload and armor, but I’m sure there are many more that I don’t know of).
Abrams UFP and turret ring fix, make TUSK II a modification and other fixes.
These the same guys complaining the PSO wasn’t strong enough? I personally only saw people whining about how artificially gimped 2A7V was going to be.
“No actually German tree players don’t want busted cracked equipment. They are sensible and don’t advocate for power creep.”
5 seconds earlier
“Actually 2A7V isn’t strong enough and needs to be even better.”
Do you hear yourself?
So winrate and capability was gimped due to good players having a hissy fit instead of using their perfectly fine, if historically somewhat inaccurate, vehicles?
As others have pointed out, it’s not like a single vehicle on its own is genuinely trashing the entire game. No single tank is strong enough to stomp. It can bring back better players and strengthen a lineup. Clearly the top-tier German lineup has been fine for ages and now just receives the attention to highlight just how good it was all along.
The problem is when another nation literaly gets called the better germany, it is not to much asked that the german community at least wanted tanks that are equal to the sweden one, most of us all said as well that the 2A7V will be to strong if its in its real state and advocated during the build up that we would get sth else
yes because it still is weaker then the strv122s and was insult when we waitied nearly 3 years for a new mbt only for it to end up worse then the strv122s once again, and yes we have vehicles with the same strength as strv122s, good thing is we have proven it needs better internal armor and the same add on armor as the strv122 as well
like i said we didnt want the 2a7v we knew it would be busted, there is a big power difference in pso and 2a7v
again read the whole thing slowly, we arent saying it is weak, but fact is, it does not perform to reality, every nation fights for their vehicle to be added into the game as accurate as possible, additionaly yes it still is worse then the Strv122s with better armor, add all the bugs on the 2A7V like armor holes and yes it is not that good currently, just gotta know how to counter it which is realy easy
german players were bored yes, there was no good or intresting addition for nearly 3 years they moved on, then why play germany when you can play the better tree sweden with the exact same tank and line ups but multiple times better? hell germanys best tank the 2a6 was swedens 3rd best tank, ito 90m way better then flarakrad as well,
So yes a lot german “main” just stopped maining germany and now moved back to try the 2A7V.
Again its fine, but still worse sweden, which is the main problem we have, when this simply isnt the truth and is artificaly gimped by gajin trough additions in favour of sweden. When someone wanted to play leopards its just better to play sweden, german top tier had nothing intresting that would have gotten players to choose germany over sweden
I mean if the history of top tier ground has shown us anything, it’s that 1-2 new vehicles are perfectly capable of causing an imbalance beyond believe:
M1 and IPM1
Leopard 2A5
Strv 122A
Leopard 2A6 and Strv 122B PLSS
T-80BVM
Leopard 2A7V and Strv 122B+
All cases of this happening.
Because PSO is inferior to the 2A5? What’s wrong with complaining about that?
People foresaw that 2A7V will be incorrect, so they got in motion, but at the same time they kept telling people “hey, this thing will be really good, especially if fixed”, and what do you know, EVERYTHING TURNED OUT TO BE TRUE.
Do you hear yourself?
Where did I lie? Everything I said there is true.
No single tank is strong enough to stomp.
Lmao. You’re really oblivious if you think that’s true.
M1 stomped all on its own (gaijin limited them to 4 per team).
2A5 stomped all on its own (gaijin applied an artificial spall boost to the mantlet area to make it more killable, a nerf that is still present today, even on the 2A7V).
BVM was so good it single-handely took Russia out of a slump, and kept them there (along with further additions) for 2+ years.
Even the goddamn Leclerc was good enough to be a single-vehicle stomper (back when it was first added).
Strv 122A at its addition made 2A5 look like a child.
Thinking back on everything, Gaijin balaning was truely something special that year. And not in a good way.
The 2A6 and 122B PLSS also stomped hard enough that they didn’t only get their own reload nerfed temporarily, but also those of the 2A5 and 122A.