Leopards w/ spall liners are way too op

The 2A7V isnt buffed, its actually nerfed to shit…

  • The DM53 round it uses is from 1999 and has already been replaced, its stock round (DM33) is from 1987

  • DM11 doesnt work properly at all. Its fking trash vs light ground targets because using the laser rangefinder to get the proper range just set the fuze to a range where it wont do shit, and it cant hit an air target either.

  • Its base armor is worse than a Leo 2A5.

  • The add on armor is worse than the swedish add-on armor despit being 20+ years newer

  • The turret wedges are missing steel plates in them that were added to eliminate a weakness in the turret armor when fired at at a perpendicular angle from the base armor

  • The turret was raised by gaijin to make the turret ring an artificial weakspot despite germany fixing that by adding a thick steel ridge to protect it, so in-game the yurret sits ABOVE its own turret ring protection

  • The mantlet of all late leo 2’s ingame remains MASSIVELY nerfed so as to create an artificial weakspot instead the weakspot of the mantlet from the 2A4 being eliminated with the 2A5 and onwards

  • The transmission is wrongly geared so its acceleration is worse than it should be. (New transmission irl to give the 2A7V the acceleration of the 2A4 at the expense of a bit of top speed)

Theres been over 30 bug reports put in for the 2A7V for MAJOR modelling issues nerfing it hard. Saying its been buffed is a bad fking joke

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Don’t be a cynic dude. Years of clubbing them? Leopards have always been strong. We shouldn’t fight against one another, being cynics with a bias for nations. We all play becouse we want to unlock vehicles and try them out, no mater the flag. Its gaijins inconsistency with every update creating these issues because they purposely ignore or even lie about things to get community approval over there choices of what should get a buff and what shouldn’t, what should be balanced, ect.

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What

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You wanna know how you can enitirely disregard this gimmick? H. E.

that good for community to fight back against Russian BS so here we are pretty much now Russian mains just show their true colors how bad they are when fight equal opponents.

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huh ? having usa on the team is a gamble because of the sheer amount of wallet warriors…

Funny i have a different exp Germany getting stomped the whole time

Only because the pure penatration is lower it doesn’t mean it is worse. I would say it is even the best ammo in the game, since everything above 550mm is already enough, especially if you see the size of the “splinter spread cone” of russian ammo.

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get a load of this bozo lmao

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If someone is currently getting stomped as Germany at 11.7, than that would be a massive skill issue.

10.0-11.0 different though.

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eh depends how many strv122 are in the enemy team

It currently seems to offer a 2/3rd reduction in spall. I’d bring that down substantially - down to 1/3rd I guess. Still enough to help but not enough to rely on.

I have even stomped sweden with the 2A7V.

I don’t consider myself a great player, but I would seriously doubt the capabilities of someone who isn’t able to get a 65%+ winrate and 1.5-2 K/D in the 2A7V and Strv 122s in current top tier.

These 4 tanks are just that dominant at the moment and honestly something should be done about the top tier situation. Preferably by getting other MBTs up to a similar level over these 4 MBTs nerfed down to the rest.

I believe it’s how all the tanks should be.

thats not the part were i mention we found more and more stuff for buffs on the 2A7V and PSO and are directly handing it to trickzzter is it?

Are you sure the spall liners do even work right now? Its spalls like it always does, despite it hit the liner. 3/3 turret crew gone with one side hit. Nothing changed.

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200w

BTW T-90M is able to make DM52 not pen the turret side. I had this now for 3-4 times, that their turret side spall liner made the whole round somehow vanish.

Yeah, that sounds pretty typical. The soviet black-hole armour is why I no longer play GRB. The Challenger 2 can barely survive a glancing blow, but god-forbid a T-80/90 dying from any less than 3 or 4 rounds. That would be deeply unfair

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Armor viever gives DM59 no chance to bounce anywhere on the side. However, ingame even the flat turret side withstands.

Kornet, even pens the strongest part of the armor, the wedge. Its like you have no chance. Nato armor just does not work and russian weapons always do the trick. No aim required. Just hit the wedge, no biggy, dead anyways.

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