seem Russian mains can’t keep up with aiming weak spot because they don’t know how to do that before
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So you’ve enjoyed using the most OP tank in game for a while, let another nation have a turn lol, BVM win rates were worse than 75% at one point in time too
Either way the wont remove anything, pretty useless article to be honest [Development] Detailed information surrounding Spall Liners in War Thunder - News - War Thunder
Wait, are you actually angry?
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Ah the average ru main? is salty :D
must be hard if you can’t point and click anymore, be happy that some tanks still miss armor
And thanks to gajoobles incompetenz or favour for beloved russia nato tanks just get nerfs :)
But congrats to your first post :D :D :D
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LOL Behold Russian main that have no skills only know how to press W and win but have high skills at crying like babies to seek attention
Well this entire Leopard incident just show how suck RU main really are when need to fight equal opponents
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Leopard 2s at the moment are literal skill checkers.
And i mean it for me Leopard 2A7V and Strv122 are just best example how hull armor should work strong UFP weak LFP just like Russian tanks what to crying about if not skills issue.
I want to clarify i made this thread before knowing this " Issues with fragments after armor penetration — We’re aware "
I can’t put an update on the original post idk why can’t edit it but just wanted to clarify, I don’t think leo spall liners is the issue. Leos are OP right now by what that modern tank has and how it affects balance, but my original post was that I thought it was the spall liners in the leos that were op but it was a bug regarding low frag after pen. So its a diffrent subject really.
I think leos strength is the step top tier is moving. i believe other vehicles need to start implementing their mechanics for armor like US tanks, they need a buff. Leos are op rn but if other nations follow on the buffs it will all go together.
FYI, 2A7V isn’t even at its peak of strenght right now. It’s lacking a lot of armour it should have, and has several armour holes that shouldn’t exist :P
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I play Russian and German and I see how much Russian players take advantage of the bias, but it needs to be balanced on both sides. even though leopards are better than Russian tanks in real life
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yeah just like the PUMA. i doubt the Leopard 2a7v’s gonna be fixed real soon. it’s gaijin afterall. they rather beat around the bush than fix the tanks
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My sympathy for those, who are facing Germany now after years of being able to club them at their free will is quite limited.
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yup u neeed alot of skill to press W and rushspawn kill everyhing
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So the other 7 nations beside Sweden and Russia can screw off and suffer?
Then again with those stats a take like this doesn’t suprise me.
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I never said that Russia can’t.
Just like Russian main doing ?Good now Russian main know how it feel like when someone can do the same don’t like it? Then Russian main have big skills issue pal
I think people are forgetting that spall liners when announced were ONLY SUPPOSED TO GO ON ONE TANK: THE T-90M.
On the development server the T-90M was introduced with a spall liner. No other tank had one, including the Leo. On Reddit and here people went nuts and started filing bug reports about spall liners. Gaijin not knowing how to get out of this mess, as spall liners have been brought up in the past but always denied until they want to introduce it for the T-90M, were trying to sneak it through quickly and quietly. Which is why it hit the development server in a later patch, which was 3 days away from the patch going live.
So Gaijin caved and added spall liners to SOME tanks as a caveat not realizing how powerful it would make some tanks because they never intended them to have them…like the Leo. So now you have a tank that was made to be played without a spall liner and buffed as such, all of a sudden with a spall liner. Which makes it really good.
The only tank that was supposed to be that good was the T-90M. Thats why all the Russian players are pissed. The other players are pissed at the blatant double standard.
Gaijin has managed to piss off everyone with this one mechanic when it was supposed to benefit Russians and only Russians. To Say this is embarrassing is an understatement.
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Because the turret isn’t in another post code gives a hint that some one could survive
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The 2A7V isnt buffed, its actually nerfed to shit…
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The DM53 round it uses is from 1999 and has already been replaced, its stock round (DM33) is from 1987
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DM11 doesnt work properly at all. Its fking trash vs light ground targets because using the laser rangefinder to get the proper range just set the fuze to a range where it wont do shit, and it cant hit an air target either.
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Its base armor is worse than a Leo 2A5.
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The add on armor is worse than the swedish add-on armor despit being 20+ years newer
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The turret wedges are missing steel plates in them that were added to eliminate a weakness in the turret armor when fired at at a perpendicular angle from the base armor
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The turret was raised by gaijin to make the turret ring an artificial weakspot despite germany fixing that by adding a thick steel ridge to protect it, so in-game the yurret sits ABOVE its own turret ring protection
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The mantlet of all late leo 2’s ingame remains MASSIVELY nerfed so as to create an artificial weakspot instead the weakspot of the mantlet from the 2A4 being eliminated with the 2A5 and onwards
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The transmission is wrongly geared so its acceleration is worse than it should be. (New transmission irl to give the 2A7V the acceleration of the 2A4 at the expense of a bit of top speed)
Theres been over 30 bug reports put in for the 2A7V for MAJOR modelling issues nerfing it hard. Saying its been buffed is a bad fking joke
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