I swear, Germany continues to always get the short end of the stick. With the addition of the “turret basket” being made apart of the horizontal drive system anytime you get shot its instant death. On top of that the armor was nerfed to be EVEN WORSE then the leopard 2a4’s composite. Having worse chemical protection and Ke protection underneath the added armor. Save top tier Germany and FIX leopards armor. Not all leopards need C tech armor just to make Russian vehicles better.
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This is just cope man. The Leo 2A5 and up are still cracked. If this is talking about the 2A7, only god can help you.
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the 2a4 variants are still solid, the 2a5 could def be a step below top tier for sure, but what does the 2a4 actually struggle to fight at it’s own BR?
It’s better than the 105mm Abrams, the T-72s, the T-80B, and that BR is light on MBTs anyways with most of the good stuff being 11.0+
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Idk man, sounds like a skill issue. Potential to reload in 5s, with good gun handling compared to USSR tanks from the 2a4 onwards as well as excellent mobility means the leo is by no means unplayable
Yeah the basket is straight up a nerf to NATO.
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Bro got a taste of playing the Abrams
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Early Leopard 2s and Abrams have the problem of having weak hull.
Top tier is in a special place right now. Just avoid it and have fun. Its by design so gaijin wont fix it.
I don’t understand why poeple are surprised that when they get shot at by something designed specifically to take them down they get crippled/destroyed.
Best line of defense is to not get shot in the 1st place, play accordingly instead of W zooming in the middle of the map.
I’m playing with the chieftains atm and I manage a lot of deathless games with 5-7 kills or more just because I play methodically instead of rushing like a headless chicken like most poeple.
I only have the 2 chieftains at 8.7 in that lineup and I never ran out of respawns since I started to play them.
Having better depression, reverse, and vertical targeting speed and turret rotation will always trump armor in a game where engagement ranges are such that hitting weakspots present on all tanks is trvial and 3rd person camera abuse means you can sit behind cover and see everything.
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sitting in a hull down position in troll-y positions the whole match gets boring very quickly and alot of maps do not allow you to do that.
I could instantly go for spawn camp for example, get lots of kills while spawncamping then claim my shit vehicle is really good.
But the chieftain is very good imo.
I use it a lot in hull down that’s true but I’m mobile with it, just that with experience and time you get better at reading the game flow and knowing when to move or when not to.
Still, they’re not even spaded yet and I’m having a 2.0+ kd in them while I usually average 1.5 in USSR.
They keep shrinking down maps so very few offer ways to flank behind enemy lines without dying to people in said hull down or behind building locations. Take what they did to modt of eastern europe’s layers where you cant even cross the canal anymore and shrunk the other flank down to nothing as well.
I got my first top nuke with Leopard 2s this last month or so; the cross analysis comparison of tanks proves the 2A5 onward are among the greats of 12.0.
The 2A5 is still among the best tanks in the game, better than the T-80BVM.
Leopard 2A5+ armor hasn’t changed.
The baskets changed almost nothing for me, they’re not as bad as an autoloader getting hit while surviving.
There are bugs with that need fixing of course.
its annoying but abrams suffer more from this than Leos