Leopard 2RI: In the Indonesian Jungle

What is its approximate effective armor? 600? 650? 550?

If it’s less than 600mm, then it will only be able to withstand the 3BM60, and anything with 600+ penetration will destroy it.

Poland isn’t a subtree in game, Indonesia is.

Same as Germany has the best Hawker hunter which it had nothing to do with…

Am i fan of it, not really, but acting like the subtree doesn’t count is niave.

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indonesia is a subtree in Japan same as Germany has swiss kit in that its had nothing to do with.

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So copy-paste Stuart’s, Sherman’s, M10’s, M18’s, M24’s, M36’s, Patton’s, Abram’s, and Leopard 2’s okay but VT-4 no?

Even if it was “fake” there’s nothing wrong for wanting it regardless.

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Gajin needs to find an offramp from all this copypaste subtree mayhem. If they continue like this, there will be ingame “nations” in War Thunder, which simply field everything at top tier. From all around the world. This can’t be it.

Factions and unique TTs??? its MMO gaming 1x1.

Maybe try this under something that isn’t a unique national variant then. The Leopard 2RI is a very distinct tank different from any variants operated by other nations and different from the demonstrator for the upgrade package it was derived from.

I’d understand this for a Leopard 2A4+ where the only functional difference to other 2A4s already in game would be DM11, but the 2RIs armor package makes a very significant difference.

A nation doesn’t “field everything” just because there’s a Leopard. The Leopard 2RI isn’t the same as a Leopard 2A7V, and that isn’t the same as a Strv 122B+, and even beyond that their lineups are very different.

This isn’t even a case like the initial complaints about the Strv 122 where they were directly better than German tanks, it’s just complaining for the sake of complaining. It’s a unique tank operated by Indonesia and significantly worse than the German Leopards for the casual player looking for the best tree to get a Leopard tank in.

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It also doesn’t help most lower BR brackets for most nations are the same as a lot of nations bought tanks from the US or from other larger nations.

M48s, Stuarts. etc etc.

however this tank literally is unique and not C&P XD

Which was to be honest a fair complaint as the STRV122 was far better over all than the 2A6

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So now comes the question: Why should I play Germany top tier?
Italy has L2A7HU better than L2A7V. Sweden has 3 L2A7 level mbt. France has A5 and A6 same as German version. And now even Japan has L2RI which is better than PSO but a little worth than A7V.
So what is the distinctiveness of Germany top tier? PUMA?
I mean the L2RI comes from the tech of L2Revolution but Germany didn’t get the L2R. At the same time, both US and England get the Abrams A3.
And when can Gaijin fix the D-tech hull armor of L2PSO???

pso:…

pso:…

It’s simple, Gaijin hates Germany.
The producer of Leopard didn’t have the most powerful one.
Especially for PSO, it’s 100% not historical.

guys how good is the armour? update takes so long

Actually a L2PSO with D-tech hull armor and the L2PL’s turret.

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They clearly hate several nations at top tier.

Think big picture. It’s not jsut germany. It’s not just the merkavas, the type 10s… challengers.

Consider your options and where your voice can be shared publicly.

I’m really jealous. US gets two new top MBTs, GB, Ru, Japan etc…

And the 4th biggest arms exporter (soon 3rd) with its vehicles driving around all over the world. With joint ventures and production plants in several countries…gets nothing. Rank II Hummel lol.

(Is a German community mods existing? If yes, can you please ask Devs whats behind this? Also the high number of premium additions vs. TT is iffy.)

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Couldn’t even lift 1 finger to update the 2a7v to an A1 at the minimum lol

Germany really should’ve gotten their Leopard 2 Revolution now

Weren’t you mad about the 2RI being added to Japan and not Germany??? Pick a struggle dude

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leo 2RI has sopme decent protection rn