you are not very bright are you? vrcc its a centauro aka an italian vehicle that was modified for the spanish army
Either for Spanish Tech Tree or Iberian, no other nation really needs it, +1 from me.
So there is 2017 prototype and this which I presume 2024 protoype? In theory they could be added separately as Leopard 2E Evolución Tortuga (2017) and Leopard 2E Evolución Tortuga (2024).
Also, is there any news on Leopard 2EM1and EM2 ?
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Spanish standalone wont happen.
Not intresting enough. Their own indiginous development is to small
so why is sweden in game?? spain could easily be added with portugal, greece and cyprus but now with portugal alone is fine too
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I don’t agree with that at all. Sure not all nation had/has MIC to USA, Germany or Russia in terms of number of vehicles, yet Spain combined with Portugal has enough unique/interesting stuff. As I’ve said, neither Germany nor Italy really needs Spanish vehicles both nation has either their own stuff or already received their Sub-Trees.
Portugal and Spain really seemed fine to me, never though about Greece though it would be fine addition not gonna lie. Considering the current situation, Spain with Portugal is seems good enough to me.
Sweden developed a whole line of indiginous ifvs withbthe cv series and has many modern planes with the draken and gripen and so on?.
What does spain has for modern where the money lies? Eft that is developed by multiple, imported leos and so on
What unique center piece does spain have? Portugal wont save it either
And greece got promised for israel by gajin just saying.
Instead of saying it name them.
For gajin for it to be worth it spain/portugal need intresting modern vehicles. Thats where the money maker is.
Gajin doesnt care about ww2 or cold wr anymore. Thats not where they get their money
ASCOD series?
Jesus that thing is so unnoticeable i didnt even now it exists.
That being said austrian /spain development and isnt as strong as other ifvs from what i am seeing and neither has as many versions as cv as example
so only ifvs?? you cant have a line ony with them, face it sweeden has all of this vechicles besuse thay operate them irl and its fair that have them in game “copy paste” is bullshit evryone deserve the tanks and planes that they paid millions irl in game
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yea thats why i said “but now with portugal alone is fine too” go see the very good sugestion of a greco-iderian TT and remove the greek and cupriot stuff that can easilly be replaysed by other portugese and spanish stuff
Id love to see an iberican tree or something which allows spain and other nations from the penisula to actually be recognised.
The VRCC in game doesn’t even use castellano accents it’s pretty poor.
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I did not state otherwise.
I said spain as a stabdalone is not i treszi g enough to be implemented alone.
This stays true. Sweden is more intresting at the end of the day. Its the whole. Ground as well as air.
Strv122 arguably are the most unique leo exports as well, history wise.
As it has been pointed out there is the ascord. But its not as extensive as cvs, easy as that
A new standalone tree that needs 3-4 countries right of the bet to be worth it is just unnecesary and wont happen.
They dont have enough intrest to be justified.
End of the day, it would be another flavour of german and sweden.
But at least they have different air.
While spain gets euros as well
why??? whats wrong with more countries in game??
then dont play them no one makes you play a TT
no??? they are a lot of people that have told youare the spanish and portugish stuff that can be added
so??? euro is not just 1 countrys planes its a collab
nahh spain have modify the leo2e as greece the leo2hel maybe not as much the strv122plss but more that all the other strv that are just leo2a4 or 2a6
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He is just upset because the Leopard 2E would be better then the 2A7V
As it is functionaly a Strv 122 with better thermals and gun
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I am not against it.
I am just saying spain is unlikely to come any time soon as long as there is other options like korea. And with gsjins slow release scjefule for standalones u wont see it in 10years likely
Ascad yeah, just another puma/cv. Likely worse.
Leo 2e and leo2 hel are german leo 2a6ex developed export variants, which uses the strv122 armor. And this point they fall behind likely new additions of 2a7V, and coming 2a8s and so on.
Sure if you say so🤷😂 of course the brit has to butt in
And Poland
Arguably more intresting as spain trough the sheer diversity and one of the few k2 users ,yes
Aren’t you the guys who complain that the Strv 122 has better armour then 2A7V
Are you telling me that the 2A7V has D tech in game?
Yeah it doesn’t so if added it would be the best Leopard 2 in game