canada, australia treatment yeah
Please don’t give this treatment to more nations, Australia, Canada and Poland already suffer from this and we really don’t need to make the list longer.
(Why couldn’t gajin make a V4 tree and give Romania and Spain to Italy)
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What’s it’s thermal imager for gunner/commander?
2nd gen!
It would be the best tank in the game; imagine Leopard 2A7HU, except with the same mass and mobility as Strv 122 (so no downgraded acceleration or top speed).
All I’m gonna say is… if Gaijin dared to add it as an Italian squadron vehicle, it would be enough to draw me to Italy, hahah (along with 2A7HU).
But if it comes to Germany so it stops being a worse Sweden, I wouldn’t complain either.
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I would say the recent Tiger HAD premium showed that spain has no real home either.
And can be added where its fits
Specialy italy and Hungary are going towards KF51 now and i like them specialising into that, instead of watering down with leopards
Nice kitty…
italy is better
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+1 gib!!!
Good that spain has no relation to the italian tree i guess
VRCC + spanish typhoon camo.
Vrcc is an italian vehicle.
Spanish camo cause its the same model
Explain the spanish tiger had in germamy then.
Spain is not an italian sub tree and it isnt a german one either.
They go were they fit best in this case germany as the developer see the leo 2a4m can
You couldnt be more wrong
You said: “spain has no relation to the italian tree” I just proved you are wrong.
U didnt
VRCC is an italian vehicle.
And a skin is just a skin cause its the same EFT version
There is no relation
Vehicles went to their developer nation
Thats only what happend.
Only if you imagine it out nowhere it doesnt make it happen.
Spain is not an italian subtree, look at the Tiger HAD in germany. The newest spanish addition.
U probed that the VRCC has relation to italy, since italy developed it.
Not that spain has relation to italy to make it a subtree
I would agree personally. I would’ve preferred an Greco-Iberian tree but with Greece and Cyprus going to Israel I’m not sure it can hold by with just Portugal and Spain.
Only issue is Italy might get bloated with a third subtree so I’d wait until nation folders or some other tech tree reform.
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Italy has more.
Its stated as the place for minor axis nations.
Romania etc are all stated that they gonna be placed into italy.
So yes, spain has no place in it.
You guys are just showing u have no idea of the state of the game or how implementations are handled.
I get the current theme is minor axis but it’s not like Spain and Italy are completely unrelated.
I just stated my personal opinion as the other two options is slot Spanish vehicles into Germany which is already huge and has Switzerland (which would result in what we see for India and Romania) or disperse it across nations which we then see barely any of it’s unique vehicles as readily obtainable.
Until there’s an official statement on where Spain is being placed (like the announcement for ASEAN countries) I’ll continue to hope Spain gets a proper home.
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Ok and why is germany not allowed to get their export vehicles and every other nation is allowed to?
What you are doing is just descriminating against germany for the sake of it.
China gets their exports. Russia, US and so on.
But if sth would go to germany its a problem out of nowhere.
Italy has enough. With hungaria alone they have 2 independet KF51 developments going and even more. Italy has started several new light tank variants developments to be added to their roster.
Yes, but until then germany is the most likely place for the leopard 2e as an export.
Germany just received the Tiger HAD as a premium. And the Had block2 could be likely as our next tech tree heli.
All possible cause germany helped develop it.
Spain is no better then canada and australia. And isnt entitled to special treatment either.
You guys need to realise that not all nations can be added into the game and not all will get a home.
There is many nations that are “split” already.
They simply arent intresting enough as stand alone options.
Rather is better for them to get additions at all
I never said anything of the sort. I would’ve been fine with Spain in Germany if Switzerland didn’t join (still would’ve preferred it in Italy but pre Swiss Germany would be good as well).I’d simply rather not split nation vehicles because they are usually relegated to hard to obtain sources and I thought Italy was the better option as there would be slightly more room on the tree as to avoid what happened to India and most likely what’s going to happen to Swiss ground.
(Also didn’t Germany get the Class 3 P + Argentine tanks as well as the Canadian leopard 2?)
“I believe Spain should be in Italy as it allows more vehicles to be added and makes sense”. “So you hate Germany?” ??? Entirely new sentence.
By your logic I would also be discriminating against the USA and Uk because I think Canada+Australia+NZ would be a better way to implement then what it is currently. Am I discriminating against the USSR for thinking Poland and Czechoslovakia should get a solid home with as many as their unique equipment as possible, including the upgraded soviet equipment?
And I completely understand it, Germany does have a valid claim. I also know multiple nations that used to be one offs then became subtrees for different nations and entire trees. We will just see what gajin has to say.
How interesting a nation is subjective. I prefer ww2/early cold war but I know others have a different view.
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i never said Spain should be a subtree
Leo 2 E is compeltly german made, we are the ones actualy having all the sources for it, same with KF41. The developer nations are the ones with most information most of the time if its isnt an indiginous upgrade, which this is not.
what happend to india?
Its a british subtree and indian vehicles gonna be continously be added there
what should happen? it will be added.
You might misinterpret that subtrees need a whole line?
What you are forgeting is that each dedicated nation addition will eat up more and more sources by gajin.
So trees that simply are not worth it revenue wise, will likely not happen
Yes and we get massive flack for the Class 3 P and 2a4M can by the brits / canadians.
Argentine is a rare case. But most of the time germany gets exports people complain massively like its the weirdest thing of the world to ask for them.
but it doesnt. the amount of vehicles already in a tree does not change the amount which will be added in the future. You are massively misinterpreting that.
War Thunder gonna need to change the system at one point like multi pages as they already did with coastal and blue water.
But the current trees do not influence future additions.
The thought that smaller trees are able to gain more is wrong, they still get the same vehicles overall as “big” trees
actualy yes, cause you are telling the US they arent allowed to get their exports.
Planes the F/A 18s dont change much to the current US ones they dont matter.
But it becomes more relevant for ground vehicles were line ups are a thing and small changes become more noticeable and worth it.
Canada and Australia as a standalone likely would be the best solution yes.
but realisticaly it aint happening its not worth it for gajin.
Until canada/australia standalone gets added US should get their exports
You seem to be of the weird idea that the addition to the US as an export vehicle would stop it to being added later to a stand alone tree as well if it ever appeared.
This is not the case in the first place.
In the same way the 2E could be added into a spanish tree at any point as well if it happens.
Until then slot it into germany.
its sadly its not subjective. Money is the main decision maker.
If it aint make money, gajin wont dedicate much to it.
Gajins main focus is modern vehicles they make the money. if the top of the tree isnt intresting enough.
Gajin wont consider it.
People pay premium time and premium vehicles to advance to top tier.
low rank and medium rank players dont make the money for gajin.
They slot in vehicles from time to time, but its not their main focus anymore.
low / medium rank intresting foreign vehicles are likelier to appear as events/premiums as a result, where they can levage the playerbase to pay for it instead
Give it to Germany please.
Germany still only has one D-tech armor leopard.
Also is unfair that Germany could not have their export.
It currently happens when Gaijin decided to give Boxer-30 to British.