Leopard 2E - The Spanish cat

Yeah yeah, get back to me when britain csn develop mbts on their own again without germany and doesnt develop ifvs which permanently injure its crew members.

There is more between the 2a6e and the 2a7v.
Spain likely would only get 1 variant as well, swedens problem from the beginning is its 3 strv122 thing.
Germany still is the user with L/55A1 and would be the only one out of them with DM73 and DM83.

Germany generaly is held back in ground by other nations, which is the problem.

Doesnt change that spain is not intresting eniugh as a standalone.

Could say something along the line of 2E can be added to germany an an export variant. But everyones gonna start crying immediatly cause geemany is not allowed to get exports, but other nations are.

For someone who says that they are no up set about the best going to someone else you seem very upset

Also the Ajax isn’t an IFV we should of gone with BAE over GD

Leopard 2E would be very interesting but unlikely to be for a standalone nation are probably end up as Italian sub tree or something

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On the contrary… I have 7 ASCOD IFV suggestions pending, on top of the Pizarro (two variants), Ulan, and their prototypes. Easily a dozen, or more.

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I mean, this is the only way to be honest. As much as I’d like to have a Spanish tech tree/subtree/mixed tree etc. We all know Gaijin’s going to take ages to introduce a TT anyway.

Debates for debates useless thing…

yeah there is quite a lot, also the prototype they developed before buying stuff like leopard 2.

Spain actually helped finalise it’s production if I read through the lines properly.

That can be used to talk about literally any IFV / APC in game, bradley is just a worse puma too.

Ehhh what?

CR2 has done better in ukraine than any other nato MBT and was used as a breakthrough tank in the offensive into russian soil?
The CR3 has little to influence from Rhiemental bar the gun and some insides to the turret already based off of a design which was there.

all the composites we designed are still proven to be the best in the world, again as shown in active warzones.

So while im aware leopard is a fantastic MBT don’t start disparaging an entire nation just cause one dudes being a pest.

Any ways keep it about the spanish stuff

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Wish Italy got a Spanish subtree, but this is likely going to be a German premium once the 2a8 is out.

thought they would when the damn VRCC came but hey ho

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So, explain me why the event boxer is in GB and not in germany?

uk is a home for commonwealth vehicles, that dont fit otherwise
Germany has multiple other boxer variants alreaedy in the game, those it went to britain.
Spain has no relation to italy in the game.
The 2E still has place to be added in germany cause germany lacks uparmored leopards.
It being added to germany makes the most sense and nothing is stated for spain.
There is a connection for UK and commonwealth.
U cant just wish a connection that doesnt exist.

Italy is the stated home for hungary and other minor axis nations, not spain.
There future focus is the KF51, which is fitting for both italy and hungary.
Not the leopards

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Which is, and lets be honest here, ridiculous, as they shouldn’t of added the spanish VRCC.
Germany by all means should of been home to Axis minor nations as it was literally the head honcho of the axis.

Italy on the other hand, swapped sides as well as could host a plethora of mediteranian or Iberican vehicles.

Not specifically referncing the 2E , but say the Lince for example.

What Lince? 2A4 analog? It wouldn’t be added since it didn’t leave mockup stage.

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I merely used it as an example, I’m well aware it didn’t leave mockup stage mate.

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Why using it as an example then? 🤔

Cause it’s easily referenced and quick to come to mind? got a problem like chief?

Just pointing out that it doesn’t work as an example.

Germany doesn’t need “minor Axis”, they already have a lot of stuff from their own. Spain could be an Italian subtree instead of Hungary/Romania, but in that case these nations would better fit some Eastern Europe TTs like V4 and Yugoslavia.

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I propose adding the Spanish Leopard 2E MBT (also known as Leopard 2 Impreso) to the game.

It is a licensed modification of the German Leopard 2A6, produced in Spain by Santa Bárbara Sistemas between 2003 and 2008. The tank was developed under the Coraza-2000 program to replace the aging M60A3s.

The main difference from the base 2A6 is the armor. An additional composite armor module was added to the upper glacis plate (UFP), similar to the one found on the Swedish Strv 122. Additionally, the roof armor over the crew hatches was reinforced, and an anti-mine plate was added to the belly.

As for the rest of the specs: the gun remains the same long-barrel 120mm Rheinmetall L/55 as on the 2A6 (firing DM53 and DM63 APFSDS). They fitted an in-house FCS by Indra, featuring high-resolution thermals for both the gunner and the commander’s panoramic sight. Due to the extra armor, the weight increased to 62.5 tons, so with the same 1500 hp MTU engine, the acceleration will be slightly worse than that of the German 2A6 More information here


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No? Italy already has 2 subtrees that can offer top tier stuff, Hungary can offer another Leopard 2A7 and Romania Abrams, Italy doesn’t need another subtree and Spain is better of on their own TT with collaboration like with Portugal or other Hispanic Countries

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Spain can be added as an operator in France, or it can be used as a squad or marathon tank for Germany