Leopard 2A8

Machinery of War Discussion Ground Vehicle
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Dude I Just pointed out a Number to highlight that since Italy Is investing a lot on those units, various changes will be implemented. I don’t understand why You feel offended.

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I never said that Germany won’t do anything After the 2a8, I Just pointed out that Italy Will be the biggest 2a8 operator. Idk were You ever saw me saying this. You are Just assuming that I don’t know anything about German projects wich Is, again, a wrong statement.

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2A9? Would it have any significant changes over the 2A8?

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Afaik a redesign, pretty much. Supposed to be a Germany exclusive variant. It’s been in the works for about 7 years already I think?

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When is it planned to enter service? I’ve just never seen anything about it.

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Ahh.

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Ew, hull

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Thankful that M322 was removed? Yippee!

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Should be 2029:

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/553364431636004885/1171066496584261702/Leopard-2-Roadmap-2-1024x678.png?ex=662854ea&is=6627036a&hm=907eccfddf3e6f276215897b9e8e2e39dcba28fe521dac5637d46ee83f3420b6&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=581&height=385

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/553364431636004885/1129849266387562627/1689401980945.png?ex=6628ad60&is=66275be0&hm=3051f4dff0c28f8e725de96a415589cb63a33c370367e25b9d9d13b80c3d073c&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1056&height=909

One of the most notable changes it might include is this:

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/554019825043636224/1126659300241195048/image.png?ex=6628473d&is=6626f5bd&hm=97266e974f9f3fb2e29d3b1620025fe8b4b731c9270dd60b5ea47bed74e40717&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=603&height=908

An expanded turret rack (that may or may not include an autoloader). KMW filled out a patent for it back in 2020 - 21.

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You can write whatever you want, one thing that remains certain is that Germany currently has no 5th generation aircraft.

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They are making it and they have the Eurofighter which is one of the best 4th gen aircraft which is more then able to fight what would be needed of it

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Eurofighter it’s a 4th gen fighter with the capacity of a 5th gen due to constant modernizations

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Italy has Eurofighter and F-35, so in this aspect Germany is behind Italy.

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Italian eurofighter dosent get the same upgrades and Systems as the German one together with germany using IRIS-T

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Is this supposed to be a chicken measuring contest or what?

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Someone wrote that Italy is behind with the development of MBTs compared to Germany, I just pointed out that Germany is behind Italy which already has the F-35s.

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Man i might be saying old info but i’m not saying nonsense, furina pretty much explained it, having your planes up and running is what matters specially if parts are available, having a few fancy planes up won’t help if you don’t have more helping each other in the airspace, also i’m not saying German aie military is the Best but i’m sure it’s not worse than italy

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Italy is behind MBT’S and italy pointed out last year the need of an upgrade of their F35 Systems, meanwhile Germany keeps upgrading their eurofighter to fit modern standard both with Systems weaponry and technology

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Italy also upgrades its Eurofighters, because if the Eurofighters are so good, does Germany also want the F-35s that Italy already has?

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All 6 of them?