Leopard 2A8

Because they are irrelevant to Germany. Yes Germany should get our tech demos and export vehicle LIKE EVERY OTHER NATION

Hungary literaly has a KF51 programm going on, italian one as well but under different name

Doesn’t really exist the base 2a7 was a glorified 2a6 modernization

Yes. I want German made vehicles before we get vehicles from nations unrelated I don’t think they’ll ever be a time where Germany needs the 2E or 2a7Q or any other exported leopard

Pretty sure that the neither the Leopard 2E nor the norwegian Leopard 2A8NOR will get its trophy system. Israel wont allow this to to restrictions. KNDS won’t receive the permission to sell it to them.

Germany would never have put it in service. It was always an EXPORT demonstrator on the first place.

On the other hand, the first batches of 2Es were actually produced in GERMANY and based off said 2A6EX prototype, so…

Neither 2A6EX nor 2E are of German service. In that sense, there’s no difference at all. 2A6EX is not more “German” just because it wasn’t commissioned. On the other hand, many 2Es were actually produced in Germany and then commissioned and in service- that last part is the only “ethical” difference between 2A6EX and 2E.

But… sure, if you love 1st G*n “thermals” so much, keep pushing for 2A6EX instead of 2E, xD. (or 2A8/2A7A1/2A6A3/whatever.)

But the way I see it, actually good thermals is one of the few (if not only) advantages Germany could possibly get over the Strv 122 hordes.

That’s… what variants are. Modernisation of earlier variants.

This is like saying that M1A2 SEPv2 doesn’t exist because it’s just “a glorified M1A2 modernisation”.

Its already been shown and delivered for trials there

Good thing isn’t needed for the export of 2a8s since they use a specialized trophy system known as eurotrophy developed by well eurotrophy…

2E might not the recent talks have been on strikeshield

isnt the mother company(or whatever is the term in English) Israeli?

As simple as that Eurotrophy is selling Trophy in the european market. Its Israeli tech and if there is an weapons embargo by Israel, they cannot sell it.

Again because it was for export but the DEMONSTRATOR was German simple as

Almost all German exports are produced in Germany first

Again 2E isn’t German and 2a6EX demo 2 would be unique and add something cool being the 883

Yes

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Just give Greece the Leopard 2HEL and nothing in Germany in the next update just to keep the tradition of Germany getting nothing going

Not quite true eurotrophy is specialized trophy for the European market developed by knds and rafael systems and this bypasses the Israeli export restrictions

I hope not.

Who owns rafael systems?

Upgraded Leopards 2HEL ( that will take years ) before any new German top tier tank

Israel making the best tech for Europe hands down.

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Does not follow the same export restrictions of other Israeli companies.

Gajin probably has something planned already for next update most likely the 2a8 or 2a7a1 hopefully a little more tho