Yeah but any information regarding the hull “improvement” found in brochures were neglected by Gajin over and over. Not enough info lmao, but they are first to nerf everything non-russian.
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A friend of mine filed a bug report about this for both the 2A7V and the HU. For example, we had the video as a source, as well as a doctoral thesis from a university in Budapest that collaborates with the Hungarian Army in many areas. The bug report was simply closed, and my acquaintance was BANNED. But the question I’m asking myself right now is: was the HU ever delivered with the L55, or was it delivered directly with the L55A1? Because the source for the HU still specifies -9 degrees.
https://kmdi.uni-nke.hu/kepzes-fokozatszerzes/nyilvanos-vitak/2015-2025-ig?utm_source
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Thats insane
holy shi-
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So -7 it is
They shot it down lmao, said they can’t verify the image so it could be made up lmao
Took them LITERALLY 3 minutes. Theres a BRM thats intentionally sitting around intercepting any Leo 2 bug report atm.
@Smin1080p_WT sorry to bother you, but at this point there’s even an email from KNDS saying -7.4deg is not the minimum depression. What needs to be done to make this email acceptable for you guys as a source, cuz this situation is absolutely insane.
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Lolololol
What an absolute alpha way to deal with this. Included this in a bug report and dare the mods to close it hahaha
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Well, can’t say that I am surprised.
Top bad the devs won’t email them
Ngl, im starting to really pan over that uninstall.exe in my wt folder, xrom might have a point…
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Crazy how he just proved the dev team could do that very thing and email the manufacturer directly.
They won’t do it but they could. They need to just make a stamp at the bottom of dev blogs saying what they’ll accept reports on or label as not a bug
@Smin1080p_WT would it be possible for the dev team to email them and ask themselves since they can’t verify the screenshot?
Pretty low time investment effort wise.
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Nah
- They wont bother
- Much like all their other “sources” even if they did, they’d never show us. They’d just say “KNDS said we’re right, kick rocks idiots”
Smin needs to give us a way to provide this email as an acceptable source, since if its true, its a direct answer and pretty open and shut resolution to this whole saga of stupidity and bias on the part of the tech mod(s?) that have been intercepting every single bug report regarding the depression angle.
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This is basically what the abrams folks went through a while back. And those reports, dunno if you read them, wre super long wirh excellent sources.
Mod shut it down within 10 minutes without reading it.
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I wish I could find out about LWS
I’m mad at Rheinmetall.
Leopard 2A7HU uses a different turret geometry than 2A7V, with a lower internal roof height.
The 2A8 uses a similarly “new” turret with a lower internal roof height.
This is the -7.4 gun depression in-game:
It’s clearly almost hitting the roof of the now shallower angled portion of the turret.
Even if -7.4 is wrong [which I’m not saying it’s correct], I wouldn’t expect better than -8.
Oh, and 2A7V using an older turret with a higher internal roof height gets shafted cause it’s a 2A7… whoooooo…
I’m mad about that; Gaijin could hold off on 2A7V’s change if someone proves [not just us eyeballing the turrets] that 2A7V’s turret is older.
Cause this is clearly far more room between the spall liner & top of the breech than the 2A8s & 2A7HU have:
Edit:
Oh, and I have no clue where the less gun elevation comes from.
Edit 2:
I see @saromir99 's post now that pretty much confirms the different turrets beyond the in-game modeling.
Thank you for the email posting, & I’m indeed assuming it’s accurate.
Its why they started hiding the mods names, NATO bug reporters started noticing a certain bug reporter a little too often when it came to well sourced bug reports that would buff NATO vehicles being shot down…
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Yeah that tracks. Somebody has influence of some kind that they can’t just fire and is probably a boss of something.
So they cover up rather than correct.
Interesting digging there Alis, assuming things are modelled correctly that could make sense - however the breach shape might not be exact 1 to 1 with the real lofe one.
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