We basically, don’t really know anything about strv123B as of right now, just like we don’t know how the dutch 2a8 will turn out, i would not be making any assumptions about it yet, which leads me to the question of, why on earth are we adding german and norwegian 2a8s again ? Just why ? Why can’t we have patience with them ?
( https://www.fmv.se/aktuellt--press/aktuella-handelser/fmv-uppgraderar-och-nyanskaffar-stridsvagnar/ )
( https://www.fmv.se/aktuellt--press/aktuella-handelser/forsta-stridsvagn-123a-i-sverige/ )
it will never be fixed but here we go:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/ChArmc1aWk2Q
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That will also mean that the Strv 123A will be better than the Strv 123B in game
Maybe, maybe not, maybe Gaijin will admit that the armor of the 2A7 and 2A8 is no worse than that of the STRW122.
The addition or removal of trophy will have no impact on the gun angles, its irrelevant
As Necronomica pointed out, not all customers chose to equip trophy such as on the STRV123B, which is a 2A8 spec tank without trophy
Standard Configuration and Optional addition are two very different terms. I was merely disproving your point. Yes standard configurations can be changed but the APS system is no longer considered an optional addition.
I was making a point about the brochure and your defense for it, not whether the trophy APS changes a gun depression angle.
well no since Gaijin says the Strv 122 has better armor so the A will be better than the B
Cool fan fiction, it doesn’t exist out of your mind tho.
More fan fiction.
Nothing is malicious about making decisions based on incomplete information.
People know how upset I am over the turret stuff, but I’m not going to invent nonsense just cause I’m upset.
I’m going to accept the facts & work accordingly.
Cause if I started inventing nonsense, my feedback would be based on bad information & rightfully dismissed.
More fan fiction, especially when German MBTs are hilariously better than Soviet tech tree stuff.
Come on… think more on this stuff. Inventing fan-fictions does not help us in attempting to correct 2A7V.
If Gaijin wanted people to play Soviets in this manner, they just would’ve never added Leopard 2A5s onward. 2A4M would be the top tank.
& I’m thankful that’s not the case, & clearly never was a thought in Gaijin’s heads.
Especially when Leopard 2A7HU shouldn’t have the -9 degrees 2A7V has on live when they run different turrets with different internal roof heights.
I don’t think it should be -7.4, but I can’t prove that.
All I have is an argument of conjecture based on in-game screenshots of X-Ray’d tanks.
2A5:
2A7V:
Dev server 2A7HU:
Dev server 2A8:
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Or maybe they replaced the internal armor too.
obviously, but I am talking about in game here where the 2A8 has identical armor to the 2A5 (a bit worse even due to model differences)
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Actually, it was a very strange decision, why didn’t they at least make it identical to the Swedes?
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I probably would have done so if I wasn’t sure that the armor was improving, but it clearly couldn’t have remained unchanged all this time.
It is malicious when it’s so selective.
When “incomplete information” suggests an improvement, they reject it for being “not enough information”.
When incomplete information suggests a nerf, they take it as the word of God and would reject any source imaginable on Earth using said incomplete information as an excuse.
Remember M735. A single wrong report to nerf it in hours, and not even FOUR YEARS of correct reports have been enough to have it fixed. How can you justify that?
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It’s not selective though, that’s what the problem is.
If it was selective, 2A7V wouldn’t have changed its gun depression, only 2A7HU & 2A8.
The problem is the gun depression citation was used for ALL 2A7s, irrelevant of the fact 2A7V & 2A7HU using different turrets in-game.
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Every time they find a chance or excuse to nerf modern MBTs, they nerf them, disrespecting reality; every time they are given information for a corrective buff, they refuse to act accordingly.
That’s the selectiveness.
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Except they are correcting the 2A8s to their correct -7.67.
2A7HU should also probably be -7.67 [potentially more?].
But 2A7V should be -9 due to running an older turret with higher roof height.
Don’t you understand? This was an intentional weakening (nerf); even in Kobesin’s report, the -7.67 figure shown on the plaque in the video was not mentioned.
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