Leopard 2A8: A Coveted Trophy

I have two primary sources to support my view, sure they are a TINY bit different, but they both agree that -9 degrees of depression is incorrect. So far, nobody has provided me with any other primary documentation to prove I am wrong, so I will continue to use these sources.

The Eurofighter issue is completely seperate and was handled badly by Gaijin.

I welcome people using the updated Norwegian source to bug report, if they would like to try and get the Leopards depression increased slightly from -7.4 to -7.69.

You have 2 primary sources that disagree on a specific number, doesnt matter that they are close, they are different. So either one of the sources is wrong or as Necronomica said the German and Norwegian versions have different depressions but saying everything is dandy, because the values are similar is just nonsense.

No its not. The Eurofighter issue has a primary manufacturer source that got denied, because the devs think their knowledge is worth more than a brochure. It just shows that there is 0 consistency and standards on how sources are handled which is the core problem.

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There are also many differences in the speed listed for the Leopard 2A7 and 2A8 in primary sources.

Some say 60 while others say 61, 63 or 65kph.

Does that mean we should throw away all of those sources as they don’t perfectly agree?

“therefore correcting any minor discrepancies.”

Minor. I would guess that some changes were done but probably not what you wanted them to be?

At the very least we should research into why there is a difference in the first place and then get a unified consistend standard on which source to use. Because otherwise you end up with situations like this or the EFT one.

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Seems to be just the name that differs because the page also mention the German 2A7V at the same time.

Is that a german Leopard 2A7V? Because the answer on that report tells me that the info has to be tank specific Community Bug Reporting System
Maybe the proposed 2A7 NO and the in service 2A7V have different limitations.

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No.

Correct.

Valid point.

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This whole discussion about the gun depression of the 2a7v is so unnecessary since the official youtube channel of the Bundeswehr states that the tank has the capability to elevate and depress the gun in ranges from -9 to +20 degrees. And if the Bundeswehr themselves cant be counted as a valid source i might loose some braincells.

(Edit): I obviously cant comment on the 2a8 since i genuinely dont know. But in terms of the 2a7v this change is just flat out incorrect.

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What if it’s only -7.4 in the front and it can actually go to -9 when aimed over the side

The Leopard 2A7V changes resulted from Gaijin’s blunders, as they had to patch flawed armor modeling, spall liner bugs, and broken suspension physics.

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:)

Well at least we get some consistency

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Sadly a video like this falls second to a primary source like the brochures we have

But gaijin have now accepted the updated source for the 2A8NO, so the depression might be made a tiny bit better

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Would it? It’s from the military that operate the vehicle themselves and is uploaded on their own youtube channel.
I’m actually not sure.

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How can this video be categorized as a secondary source? In my mind this is a pretty solid source.

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Exactly

It’s worth a try to use it as a source for a report on the depression on the German 2A7V.

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Im going to make a report later. (Gotta get home first tho)

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The only minor change I can thing they made was making a shatter plate work and iirc that was before the blog