Leopard 2A7V- The most underperforming tank in the entire game

All trophy vehicles currently have the same loadout in game. 2 charges ready to fire and 4 more in reserve for reload (1 ready + 2 reserve for each side).

But my BMPT example was just the BMPT shooting a single missile and trophy just said “nah, you’re on your own for this one”.

That does seem kinda bullshit.
I already see eurothrophy not having any advantage while having dedicated reload mechanics and extra storage for extra interceptors

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German mains at it again

Well you certainly won’t see ussr mains complaining about their stuff underperforming compared to real life.

Mig 29 performance, Su-27 performance, Su-30 performance, idk they definitely complain, not gonna say it’s not valid but everyone complains about something

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True I forgot about those discussions. The point of my comment was rather that if someone would hold ussr top tier equipment to the same standard as stuff like the 2A7V here then most of their stuff would get nerfed and that’s why they usually have little to complain about.

True that.

It doesn’t really matter. It all comes down to the devs anyway. Russia will never lose, while every other vehicle has one issue or another

I’m an Italian main and I know Russian mains are the worst

But that doesn’t mean German mains can’t be the second worst

You guys have in my opinion the most hand held nation throughout the tiers on average (Russia has more concentrated bias at some tiers, but at some it’s actually balanced)

And despite this you guys complain as much as Russian mains, and usually on much dumber topics like this which seems like rage bait but it’s just a lack of skill

And where?
You mean like Heavy Tanks vs HEAT-FS and APDS?

Complaining about the tiger 2 facing heatfs is in my opinion a skill issue

You can pen any tank that can pen you with that vehicle

That is balance

Now think about other nations where you have weak armor and weak gun and you have to use your brain to kill and enemy

Where did I complained?
That was a sinple question…

Merkava bro
Merkava cant stop reliably modern apfsds at all
Hell even cold war apfsds

And are there primary sources that give protection values for the Merkava Mk.4, values that indicate the in-game version is missing as much as 800mm in spots?

Sinple :)))))

Alot of evidance here
Also there is a bug report to the armor that allready got accepted but gaijin didnt implemented it for 3 years!

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A8 Roof and sideskirt protection was upped imho.

Ah yes, when asked about evidence, just link some 150+ page thread and tell the person to figure it out.

That must be why German mains got a dedicated anti complaint dev blog last update, hm?

Really? Where exactly? The locked behind paywall mid tier CAS? The light tanks that are mostly behind events or again a paywall? Don’t get me wrong, Tigers, Panthers and Leopard 1s are great but is the tree really more handheld than the US or USSR?

Ah the classic. Can’t even read what the thread is about but talks about skill. It doesn’t matter whether you have a 5.0 KD in a 2A7V or a 0.5 it’s still massively underperforming compared to what it should be. It’s completely independent of skill. And that’s what the thread and complaints are about. Realism.

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my 2 cents are a certain nations having cried so much the premium is being made a tech tree vehicle this update

Best “proof” you can get is circumstantial based on it being 80+ tons, and some pictures of it tanking hits from CE munitions it doesn’t ingame at X angles, alongside the weights of a lot of the tanks making zero sense (Mk.2D is heavier than the Mk.4M somehow)

Otherwise, there’s either no direct proof, or I’ve yet to see it, unfortunately it’s what happens when you try to research the military hardware of a country with as locked down security as Israel.

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