tbh i dont know.
And yea the arrowheads getting shot off with 1 hit was laughable
Ye,can be shot off
And skill, or in this case lack there of to an extend, can clearly influence observations.
As seems to be the case here, again to some extend.
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If it were a skill issue, I would have the same problem with Russian vehicle. Anyway…
There is the funny thing, Russian vehicle are very good in brain dead gameplay
Even you yourself acknowledge that Russian vehicle are very easy to play without much thought, which means they are easy to play.
kek, dont play them.
But seems to be working for you
Maybe someone might explain why the Abrams UFP shatters all incoming darts, while Leopard UFP (even the uparmored ones) let them through to kill the tank. Even at ludicrously low angles.
Why Leopards have worst reload?
An that lethal turret deadzone along the rear hemishere? In a close quarter game like this??
Leopard tanks have some serious disadvantages. I named the three worst.
It’s like that for everyone :)
One is difficult to play because of the armor, the other is easy. Which one would a new player choose? Of course, the Russian vehicle. Have fun playing!
I made a mistake by choosing Germany.
Your personal stats between your Russian and German high-top tier vehicles aren’t that far off. Only the winrate is lower on your German tanks, but that is a whole different can of worms. So that really doesn’t disprove the skill issue argument lol.
Hell you barely going 1.0 in most of these supposedly “super good and easy to play” Russian MBTs only further proves the skill issue argument.
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Yes, thats a fair point. Tho two of them are weaker, but its the same as with Germany.
So? The USSR’s best tank was added 5 years ago and still has no real competitors in the tree. Two T-90s are garbage, and BVM receiving buff of reload ONLY while using worse munitions, mind its best munition is also amongst worst of the top tier.
Yeah thats the issue of top tier: they dont balance air enough.
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Is it? There is the 2A7V sure but the next MBTs are a big downgrade compared to that.
Yes but the USSR got other super strong additions since then that are carrying its top tier.
Absolutely and thats why nations that are lacking in that department will suffer in top tier.
As you would be stupid to play USSR or USA as their top tiers are given away as much. THats the issue with main nations and copypastes, and the main reason i stand against clones EVEN if they somehow “add lineups”.
Tho. looking at it different way: cant experience Tigers, Panthers, Ferdinands apart from german tree. You can try french Panther or italian Tiger, but they would fight against germans and bring wrong experience. And swedish king tiger is largely unavaliable.
I would wish to keep it that way for all natiions, but i see your point.
There is only one abrams with anti-ERA dart added as i remember, so i position it on par firepower as Leopard 2a7. Other than that, Abrams on par with 2a6. One being better pen other having faster reload and worse protection
Some say that yes
Nah BMPT isnt as easy target as T-80 but its still gets oneshotted or disabled pretty easilly.
Spikes are FNF and they do bring kills which otherwise wont be possible. Yes, they arent AS reliable as, for example, Kornets, but then again they are FNF and they have the ability to shoot from closed position.
Was never an equivalent tho
xD i can see that
Well it DID get a rework, they added new modules
2A6 is as powerful and a bit more mobile and PSO is as survivable as 2a7, so i dont see a huge downgrade
Technically i agree, tho its mostly CAS which is unbalanced as whole
Thats a fair point tho i dont see how upgrading 2a7 would make up for that. I would vouch to make CAS weaker as whole at top tier if you wish but otherwise?
I think your memory has been not exactly up to par because Gaijin added M829A3 to every Rank 8 Abrams in the US Tree.
Huh? Let me check this real quick. I swear i saw only one being given it at the release of the patch.
UPD. Yes, you`re right. Then i take it back: Abrams surely now have better firepower than Leopards
It doesnt 1to1 make up for that but war thunder tech trees are not 100% symmetric so when a tech tree is missing or lacking in a crucial capability then other parts have to make up for that. Just like russian CAS makes up for lacking russian MBTs, german MBTs could make up for lacking german CAS.
The best overall Abrams and T-Series tanks still are in their respective nations.
What is mostly given away is the planes their i agree.
For ARB this matters way less, since its 1 spawn either way.
There still is quite the difference in this situation between ground being spread, and a whole " line up " getting “ruined” or the planes being in other trees as well.
not as reliable is an understatement, honestly gajin adding MITL for ground vehicles likely would have been less problematic as the one coming for helis.
That would have made the spikes at least a tad bit better.
As its now spikes are only usefull against lights pretty much, mbts mostly results in critical,
Cause gajin isnt able to programm the top down well, (Tow 2b similary, completly gimped by gajin, since it would demolish T-series)
it is too, gajin gives it the same ammunition storage and spike ammount as the IFVS, but its not a troop transport, its a weapon platform to transport troops, supposed to use the internal space to keep additional ammunition, its a tank destroyer more if anything
thats not the promised DM rework, they talked about the armor disrepancies getting fixed.
Well that being said, Leopard is indeed already is better than soviet MBTs. But i can see your point and it has some grounds.
thats not the case, PSO has a good bit worse armor
And that without the armor beak missing
I mean the APS system will and can intercept CAS ordinance
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