nah its not that far from most 12.0 mbt, if we assume no other mbt move up, including strv 122’s, it should be 12.3, 12.7 max if it get dm73
The 2A7(s) and Strv 122s should already be 12.3-12.7 as they currently are. If we get a fully accurate 2A7 with DM73 then 13.3 is perfectly fair.
German mains want a fully accurate 2A7? sure, but they can go and play it in their own BR bracket so that other nations can be more than just Leopard 2A7 food.
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not really
they will have to add a new shell called the DM53A1 (which has those Anti ERA properties)
2A7 is a 12.3 material already without any buffs.
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Current 2a7v is a strecth to make it 12.3 and nowhere near 12.7 worthy with turret basket, wrong armor, turret armor hole, wrong acceleration, and fcs gun angle limitation
If gaijin give it it’s realistic hull armor and fix its turret armor hole and keep the rest same they can increase it to 12.3
didn’t help much if people bring CAS 13.0, they going to face it anyway
hah so plus increase survivability sound promising.
Hah considering how incompetent they are I doubt that they even know what correct 2A7 armor look like.
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It’s by far better than all the other 12.0s beside the Strv 122s. So 12.3 as is is not a stretch at all lmao.
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yeah sure whatever as long as we get realism and decompression thats fine by me
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Doesnt dm53 has like 750mm of pen?
Well anyway the point is dm53 doesnt need a buff
I mean anti era not going to change against something that it already face except Russian and Chinese tank but if German get it other should get it as well then i call it fair game but if asking me what tank should get it the most i say Challenger 2 any day.
650mm but buffing DM53 is not the point. The point is that most NATO tanks run rounds that have been out of service for years
No, not all
Vs m1 sep: current 2a7v have better hull armor and slightly better pen, but have worse mobility, worse top speed, worse turret armor (with armor hole), longer reload, and fcs gun angle limit, overall equal
Vs bvm : 2a7v have better pen, better gun depression, better reverse speed, and shorter reload with aced crew, but have worse armor, bvm don’t have turret basket and fcs gun angle limit, worse mobility, worse top speed, overall equal
Vs type 10 : 2a7v have massively better armor, better gun handling and slightly better pen, but have worse mobility, worse top speed, much longer reload, type 10 don’t have turret basket and don’t have fcs gun angle limit, overall equal
Abrams Leopard2 and Leclerc that run on outdate ammo
Strv122 Challenger 2 still using same ammo they have (not sure about Swedish army using something better than Slpprj m/95 btw but unlikely) Challenger 2 still using L27A1 because best ammo for their rifle gun
not sure about Israel Japan and Italy with Ariete.
Best round, best gun, best thermals, best armor and best survivability…
The only aspects in which it lacks is lineup, with mobility and rate of fire being… average.
It’s the very best tank in the game. Only the lineup holds me back from playing it more. Jumping into pre-up armor Leopards with 1st Gen thermals after spawning 7A7V is underwhelming hahahah.
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That’s surely a beast.
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you did not just add a 100 extra mm to the penetration bro
Yea for balance it makes sanse
That alone matters alot
That’s what I heard and i wasent sure so i didnt make a statment it was a question
Maybe i confuse it with other variant
the discussion on this topic is so funny, people are so obsessed
Great contribution pal, now please go back into your moms basement.