Leopard 2A7V is Missing DM73 Ammunition

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Hi everyone,

I wanted to bring up something that’s been bothering me about the Leopard 2A7V in War Thunder. Right now, it only has DM53 APFSDS. But in real life, the 2A7V mounts the L55A1 gun, which was specifically upgraded to fire the new DM73 round.

What is DM73?

Same penetrator as DM63, but with a new high-pressure propellant.

Achieves about 8% higher muzzle energy than DM63/DM53.

Designed for use with the L55A1 (which is exactly what the 2A7V has).

Rheinmetall’s own brochure lists 1,780 m/s muzzle velocity with the L55A1.

Source: Rheinmetall “120 mm System House” brochure (PDF) →

EDR Magazine confirms testing by WTD 91 with ~8% more energy →

Why it matters in game:

Other nations get their latest rounds (3BM60 on T-80BVM, M829A3/A4 on US Abrams).

Germany’s top tank is left with DM53, which is already showing its limits against modern ERA like Relikt.

Without DM73, the 2A7V feels artificially nerfed compared to how it’s actually fielded.

What should change:

Add DM73 as a top-tier unlock for the Leopard 2A7V.

Keep DM53 for balance if needed, but give players the option to use the round the vehicle was designed for.

Adjust pen values conservatively if Gaijin is worried about classified data — even an ~8% buff would make the 2A7V more competitive without breaking the game.

What do you all think? Should the 2A7V get DM73 to reflect its real armament, or is Gaijin going to keep Germany stuck on old ammo while other nations get their best rounds?

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Bro dm53 can be buffed to have anti era values and it will destroy russian tanks so gaijin wont gonna do that and more so add dm73

Also t80bvm already has 3bm60

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Instead of going for DM73 (which would just shred armor of Soviet/Russian tanks, their only strong side), we can just get ungimped DM53A1 which would just nulify practically any ERA thus going through armor just like DM73 but without overkill

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Brother
2a7 is allready one of the best if not the best top tier tanks
The last thing 2a7 needs is a stronger round (it already has the best round in top tier)

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As Gaijin will say,amunition just like reload is balancing tool. So no,they also denied M829A3 as it wont be any gameplay upgrade over A2.

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yes it is artificially nerfed, because it already has the best round at top tier, it doesnt need anything more

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Brother, I’m not asking to turn the 2A7V into a monster — I’m asking for it to have the equipment it actually fields. The L55A1 gun was designed for DM73, and Rheinmetall themselves published that it delivers ~8% more muzzle energy than DM63/DM53.

This isn’t about “buffing Germany for free” — it’s about accuracy. Russia already has 3BM60 in game. The U.S. has late M829s. Germany being stuck on DM53 feels like selective modeling.

Same story with Brimstone missiles. Their whole point IRL is fire-and-forget with a radar seeker. In WT, they’re just nerfed Hellfires that need constant lasing, while Russian Kh-29T and Kh-38 work as true FAF. Gaijin clearly has the mechanics in-game, they just won’t apply them evenly.

So it’s not about asking for bias in Germany’s favor. It’s about applying the same standard: if Russian vehicles get their latest ammo and FAF missiles, then German top tier should too.

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Since when? M892A2 is older than DM53

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True, M829A2 is older than DM53. That’s the odd part though — Gaijin is fine giving the Abrams its mid-90s dart (A2) and the T-80BVM its early-2000s 3BM60, which in game is modeled way stronger than most open sources suggest.

Same pattern with Brimstones: Russia’s Kh-29T and Kh-38 are full fire-and-forget in WT, but Brimstone gets nerfed into a Hellfire clone. The issue isn’t about buffing Germany unfairly — it’s about applying the same standard across nations.

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You can’t add something without Russia being able to counter it.
As it was with IRIS-T SLM, once it rolled out, Gaijin had to implement IRCM for Russia that can counter it.
Russia is weak but there just seems to be some political operation in the background, “Make Russia the greatest or we’ll ban it!”.

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First of all 2a7 is allready a monster
Second its not only about the main armament of the vehicle
If dm 53 is enough (and it is even nerfed) so there is no need to give it dm73 even if its the main shell
F16i sufa main ata missiles is python 5 and 120d so it should get it?

2a7 is historical and strong with dm53 so there is no reason to add dm53

Which is worse then dm53

This is a series of shells not a “final shell” and usa got the a2 variant which is worse then dm53

Yea cuz 16fnf will be op
I agree that gaijin should gice ef2k 6 or 8 fnf brimestones
And also kh38mt was indeed overpowerd and is clear bias towards russia

It doesnt work like that its about performance not “direct equivlants”
If thats the case israel shouldve got python 4 with other nations getting 4th gen missiles

Only reason to a vehicle having better armament then others is if its UNDERPERFORMING

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Hey, I think we met before, not sure rn, but explain this.
Why can Russia have somewhat modern shells when USA and Germany get older ones, sure, it’s more balanced but War Thunder advertises combat realism and I don’t find realistic fighting 20-30 years of shell difference

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i prefer 2a7v get its irl armor and keeping dm53(preferably with its anti era property added) than getting dm73

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Hah!! wishful thinking they don’t even give DM53 anti ERA or DM63 to increase in survivability not even it armors it deserve so you’ll get nothing because they are incompetent.

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“anti-ERA” 😂, no, Russia uses ERA the most, imagine what would happend if Germany could counter it

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I allready answerd it
Its not just about equivlants
Wt wants to be realistic as possible but still being a fun game
What about the fact that u can repair stuff?
Or load vehicle in 30 sec this ismt realistic isnt it?

We also need balance between nations
And ffs its not like germany is weak nation like what is this cope?
Look at israel with bad to not working spaa
Extrealy bad light tanks that are a joke
And mid to bad mbts that are huge and peper (when it shouldnt be like that)

U want ur mig 29 to fight f15 with python 4?
I dont think so

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Because russia would get dogwalked otherwise

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well actually not like Gaijin can’t make it better but they just won’t
Incompetent at its finest.

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Because that would either be super unbalanced, because russian tanks are already mid or german and US tanks would need to go up in BR while russian tanks stay the same. Which would essentially be Gaijin admitting that russian tech is nowhere near western tech and we all know why they wont do that

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True
Its not secret israel has some anti bias from gaijin