The damage model of the 2A7V is completely ruined at this point i have penetrated the hull armor more than 5 times (with type 10)wich it’s absurd the Upper Hull dosent bounce apfsds and the Middle of the Hull dosent stop them, meanwhile the Middle Hull of a strv122 does stop an apfsds and the Upper front plate does bounce apfsds, i’m not saying the 2A7V is Bad i’m just saying that the armor it’s not functional and completely unreliable wich it’s the new feature it’s supossed to be adding for germany
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Well irl the only difference is the roof addon and rws. Well also the mounts for addon side armor on the turret. Otherwise they are the same.
current stand is that the 2A7HU is not able to programm DM11, offical statement of the KNDS CEO
I think that was back when they received the first 2a4s. Dm11 programming should be a standart on 2a7 and newer
nup, 2A7HU, statement of the KNDS CEO on a ceremony where the last 2A7V was handed over to germany, he specialy stated how the german one still is the most modern and strongest variant and has better technology then hungarian ones. In real life arguably the programmable ammo is more useful then in war thunder of course
"Der deutsche A7V sei der leistungsfähigste Panzer seiner Klasse, aufgrund der Fähigkeit, HE-Munition zu verschießen und eine moderne Waffenanlage zu nutzen. Damit sei er auch den ungarischen und den in den arabischen Raum gelieferten Leoparden leicht überlegen. "
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Has anyone seen this post? Is it relevant to the tank, if so has it been reported? LMK what your thoughts are guys.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/18iin70/there_is_no_armor_inside_the_leopard_2a7_side/
Wondering what everyone’s thoughts are and whether this is relevant to the tank or has been reported already
Can’t understand half of what he says.
Probably misspoke.
2A7HU is based directly off the 2A7V and 2A7DNK while adding several features the others lack.
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he specialy named both 2a7hu and the 2a7q, at the current information stand point it counts as source against implementation of DM11 for 2A7HU, there is no source that states 2A7HU can programm it
Frank Lobitz specifically mentions DM11 capability as being included in the 2A7Q in his recent leo 2 book.
KMW presentation from 2013 again specifically mentions HE.
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Being able to shoot He and being able to programm it are 2 differenr things xD they can fire Dm11, but not programm it. Thats the funny thing of KNDS Ceo statement. U need an primary source stating programming, thats the funny thing^^
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Good thing for the game actually.
Programmable HE is terrible since you can’t really use it against tanks at distance
ye its horrible
thats true, personaly i just always name it to laugh at the hungarians xD they bit annoyed i call that out every time while they swear it can programm DM11 but cant prove it
It quite literally says “FCS upgrade”, which is only in relation to being able to program HE.
Firing it wouldn’t require an FCS upgrade.
KNDS CEO isn’t an expert and public statements not on paper don’t mean much.
There are several previous slides that specifically talk about HE programming being built into the gun and FCS.
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FCS can mean different things, isnt exclusive to programming
can be a different FCS system for all we know and sorry but statements of the CEO are a better source then most of the other stuff, there is nothing that specialy names programming it is a fact xD. Until you can prove otherwise the HU and Q wont get DM11
sadly this game it still act like stupid HE so even HU come out now it not gonn have much effect
jup i am aware, just lovem to annoy people with the fact
No, not really, especially in this case.
CEO statement in public like this is not a good source.
Meanwhile KMW (internal) powerpoint and Leo 2 project lead for Germany both say it got DM11 and programming.
It does not make sense to get DM11 if you don’t have programming capability, that is why RH31 exists.
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again show the sources, its as easy as that, those arent available, the only ones available are the statement it is not able to fire. I provided the prove and source, you can claim all you want, but statements of the company are primary sources and prefered over other stuff.
In the other time you werent able to prove anything yet
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/552972193856880640/1198328180709261322/IMG_1969.jpg?ex=65be8116&is=65ac0c16&hm=13e2a173cfea9e599ee13cd0d21bcf4035f88d248249db4bc19daf26bcb4938e&
I already posted sources.
But I’ll do you a favour and post them again…
Bruh…
Don’t be obtuse
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