cheeks are not stronger by any appreciable amount on m1, reload is better but dart is way worse, mobility on both is high
True theyre not stronger, but theyre not divided by the Sight on the abrams.
Plus breech is smaller on abrams while on 2A4 its so large
Yes better ammo wont fix the breech issue
In my limited test drive experience with the abrams gas turbine… i like it more than the MTU
They’re so close its up to preference/situation. Where you can make use of the reload, M1 is better. Where you can make use of the frontal autocannon immunity and turret, 2A4 is better.
It doesn’t change my original point anyway
Just my input. That’s all.
Nah. Gaijin may even consider putting T-80BVM to 10.3 but would never put 2A4 to 10.3. Your tank is not russian so don’t even think about it
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cry. because this is the actual average player…
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But why would it be 10.3
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Just exaggeration. No need to take it seriously
I’d argue the chally ds is the best 10.7 due to it’s amazing turret armour and powerful cannon but i tend to play conservatively so that’s just my opinion.
It and the Vickers are both overlooked for some reasons despite being possibly the best 10.7 mbts.
thats basically a lie.
which sometimes gets penetrated with 120mm DM23s? and even more easilly penetrated with 3BM42 than Leopard 2a4?
why do you people want to take decent MBT, make it a glass cannon and move up in BR? Who are you, the underrock campers? What a joke :/
being specificaly GOOD at everything is what makes the 2a4 OP. Its GOOD in gun, mobility, traverse, reload, ammunition. It may be worse to some tanks in some aspects, but much stronger in other aspects.
Its basically like M4A2.
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who said i want it to be a glass cannon
i am against the 2A4 moving up unless it gets DM33 AND the C-tech armour found in 8th batch serial leopards
being good enough* at everything doesnt make something OP. it makes that vehicle just that, GOOD ENOUGH.
M4A2 is not OP, it is a decent all rounder. now im starting to sounds liek alvis but damnit man, what makes you think leo2A4 is OP lol.
it cant be OP at 10.7 yet a glass cannon at 11.0 (which i dont want it to be unless the above mentioned criterion are fulfilled)
2AVs armor is actually better… because Gaijin to this day refuses to reverse the 2A4s armor nerf from 2019, the one they know was done only to make the tank easier to kill for lower power APFSDS.
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there is an austrian too, they maybe get a new round, they get new thermals, smoke grandeds, and that it
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i wasnt here during that time.
damn… they nerfed my poor 2A4?
i want revenge!!!
To same br as t72b? Is this a joke?
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Having used both , a lot tbe CR1 lacks the mobility and ready rack capacity to take a top place.
Plus its turret can be penned by most tanks at its BR.
I really do like the Cr1s, but even with my bias towards them, i still know the 2a4 is better.
Vickers has the mobility but has literally no armour and a long af reload again due to the ready rack issues.
The mk7 also lacks any form of air defense.
The CR1 mk3 or DS are both great ranks but fall short in comparison to the 2a4, they have the edge on firepower, but mobility is a huge draw back.
The turret on both can easily be penetrated by Bm42 as well as can usually ve penned by dm23 120mm
Oh that id like to see