Leopard 2 changes

What a joke

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Look how late he drops it back down. I don’t think this video is a clear indicator of where exactly the limited gun depression starts/ends. Physically it only makes sense in +/- 40 degrees arc. +/-75 degrees doesn’t seem to be a logical design choice from an engineerinf POW. Why would anyone do that?

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You can see it here 20 seconds in. (pausing on youtube you can go frame by frame using , and . on the keyboard)

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and let use not ignore that thes gun limits are under no combat. like do ppl beleve the when the gunner pulls the trigger the tank i gona go na dude you cant fire because. no of corse not the gun i gona try to aim at the target anyway and fire

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So a video is now considered a primary source?

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I will repeat here👆

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It’s actually a safety feature as to not damage the radiator or engine deck, as well as the barrel, because if you are locked on a target and hard left or right near that position, it won’t allow you to fire and keep everything safe

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Is that a primary source?

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Never claimed it was :)

guess they just fond something that will substantially nerf 3 (or 4 if you count dutch) and just went for it who needs proper primary sources

well i guess we know why the Russians always spin the turrets like crazy wen they advertise a new tank

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And are these safety features active in combat? This could easily be the same nonsense they do with the Bradleys where they retract the launcher in game when in reality that does not happen.

Somehow there is a difference between combat and doctrine, but someone needs to let Gaijin now.

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i just hope it gets resolved they turned the leopard into a glorified case-mate tank destroyer
for 12.0

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I thought this was enough of an artificial nerf already

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Sadly Not

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Such a change should require a primary source.
Gaijin failing to provide one is a big reason not to change it, even if it was historical. Cause what they cannot prove with good sources, they shouldn’t implement or change.
They require the same from players, so why shouldn’t we require the same from them?
But we all know how hypocritical Gaijin is in their handling of sources and out-of-ass-pullery.

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Back on the old forum there was someone who had some declassified leo 2 manuals and they mentioned these restrictions mentioned in them so unless we can convince gaijin to let us depress with the FCS off (which would still be awful) everything points to this being very realistic.
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Heh as i expected they gonna nerf Leopard in someways soon enough
historical nerf?
when why not historical buff too?
example DM53 anti ERA
what a buffoon

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Does the gaijin development team think they are humorous? They already weakened the Leopard 2 series’ defense against fragments in the previous version, and this update tampered with the depression angle. Is “nerf” the only word in their dictionary?

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Any supporting documents?

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cause it germ tank so they wanna nerf if , not about real or balance.

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