Leopard 2 A-RC 3.0. getting into the next generation

bully light tanks and helicopters equally if its capable of using airburst

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still it’s KNDS. not KMW.

under KMW, to simplify you the combined company still does work by themselves in this case KNDS deutschland its KMW and they even specify on documentation

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i literaly showed you prove

and compared the guns.
Your only prove is “i said so” when i pointed out prove that it most likely isnt the gun you ignored it. You have to prove its the ARX 30, i only said its not the arx30 i did not claim its a specific rws because i dont know which one it is. But you state you know when its not possible

fact is the ARX 30 isnt named when it is named everywhere else
You think a company like knds would do a basic mistake like that?

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nexter and kmw still exist under knds

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thankfuly at least someone is smart enough to find the right rcws and isnt trying to frenchify a german side project

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“NATO 30mm” is 30x173mm. 30x113mmB has seen widespread use by several NATO members, it’s not officially standardized.

main point is its not the ARX 30

Fair enough.

no, you were arguing. which is nothing close to showing proof. it’s just arguing.

at this point I am not even bothering to consider any of what you say, I saw nothing worth wasting my time

there is a good prove.

at least you know how to debate something with facts. i will correct the suggestion.

wait KMW had a hand in arjuns development and they still have idiotic faults that not even a base as Leo 2 had?

the project was mostly hampered due to bureaucratic inefficiencies and coordination issues if i had to explain every single one i would take another thread

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Pretty sure it was made by a german company, on top of having a german hull.

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Well, well, well…
If its time for tanks of limit parameters is come, how about more relics of lasted era (80’-90’)?

STRV 2000 T140/40


It’s like a CV90120, but with 140mm dakka + 40mm coax.

Glass cannon “as is”, but agile, low silhouette, and extremely deadly/versatile…
Just dont try “tank” enemy shots.

And Soviet “power supreme” - Obj.477(A/1) “Nota/Boxer/Rioter”.

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Looks like Merkava on steroids, eh?
This bad boi can brag by:

Unmanned turret, with pretty weird autoloader.

152mm erase-from-existance-gun (14 shots per minute) (plus, optionally, 30mm autocannon (heard about ideas to use 57mm for that), but it been denied due to 57mm shells is too big).

1200mm of frontal composite armor (even without of ERA (at least - Kontakt-5), APS: Softkill (Shtora), and Hardkill (Arena), additional armor plates, etc), then protected fuel tanks for spalling, and only after that - crew.

1500HP diesel for dont cosplaying Maus.
Reversible transmission.

That one was just a wood mockup, though.

yeah thank you, also a bit something the 2 ARC-3.0 should be fully capable of using DM63/73 and if we see DM83 that too but we still yet to see DM83

It would be worse than T72 in game by the time Gaijin is done butchering it.

Only if it has equivalent armor protection values based on the Swedish trials.

it was made by Five Lille who wanted to sell this tank to Argentina as an alternative the the TAM. they wanted to show that the turret could fit on the Marder and would be better than the current TAM.

the tank was Built in Five-Lille’s factory and tested in Bourge.

while the intended customer was Argentina, France also marketed the FL-15 turret at large which was successful with upgrades from different countries. but not crazy successful. like a hundred or so

here is a photo of the tank still at the assembly line in the suburb of Lille in northern France

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