Leopard 2 A-RC 3.0. getting into the next generation

Fair enough.

no, you were arguing. which is nothing close to showing proof. it’s just arguing.

at this point I am not even bothering to consider any of what you say, I saw nothing worth wasting my time

there is a good prove.

at least you know how to debate something with facts. i will correct the suggestion.

wait KMW had a hand in arjuns development and they still have idiotic faults that not even a base as Leo 2 had?

the project was mostly hampered due to bureaucratic inefficiencies and coordination issues if i had to explain every single one i would take another thread

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Pretty sure it was made by a german company, on top of having a german hull.

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Well, well, well…
If its time for tanks of limit parameters is come, how about more relics of lasted era (80’-90’)?

STRV 2000 T140/40


It’s like a CV90120, but with 140mm dakka + 40mm coax.

Glass cannon “as is”, but agile, low silhouette, and extremely deadly/versatile…
Just dont try “tank” enemy shots.

And Soviet “power supreme” - Obj.477(A/1) “Nota/Boxer/Rioter”.

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Looks like Merkava on steroids, eh?
This bad boi can brag by:

Unmanned turret, with pretty weird autoloader.

152mm erase-from-existance-gun (14 shots per minute) (plus, optionally, 30mm autocannon (heard about ideas to use 57mm for that), but it been denied due to 57mm shells is too big).

1200mm of frontal composite armor (even without of ERA (at least - Kontakt-5), APS: Softkill (Shtora), and Hardkill (Arena), additional armor plates, etc), then protected fuel tanks for spalling, and only after that - crew.

1500HP diesel for dont cosplaying Maus.
Reversible transmission.

That one was just a wood mockup, though.

yeah thank you, also a bit something the 2 ARC-3.0 should be fully capable of using DM63/73 and if we see DM83 that too but we still yet to see DM83

It would be worse than T72 in game by the time Gaijin is done butchering it.

Only if it has equivalent armor protection values based on the Swedish trials.

it was made by Five Lille who wanted to sell this tank to Argentina as an alternative the the TAM. they wanted to show that the turret could fit on the Marder and would be better than the current TAM.

the tank was Built in Five-Lille’s factory and tested in Bourge.

while the intended customer was Argentina, France also marketed the FL-15 turret at large which was successful with upgrades from different countries. but not crazy successful. like a hundred or so

here is a photo of the tank still at the assembly line in the suburb of Lille in northern France

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-1 temporarily. Dont think any new quite ready for a 5 second auto loading DM73 just yet. When similar vehicles in terms of capabilities are added, then yes it would a make a welcome addition. It just seems a bit too modern, and a bit too powerful. Eventually it can come… just not yet…

there is no such thing as temporary support. not with the vote at least.
the game is always evolving. this vehicle will not be added tomorrow. Gaijin is not adding things that make a huge gap right away. Besides it takes 3-4 months to create an in-game model. This tank could be added in a year or so. by not only this tank will be added along with other MBTs to face it, but also there would be a full line-up to support it. who knows, maybe the Typhoon, Leopard 2A8, and the KF-51 would be in the game

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I simply just didn’t leave a vote (due to the fact passed suggestion have their votes locked, and not being able to change it back in the future is a problem), but still left my opinion in case others were interested in it or agreed with it. And yes by that time it could be ready for the game, but I have a feeling we still have quite some time before those things are added. Hell, we skipped quite the number of Leo’s to get straight to the Leo 2A7. However, well yeah it’s gaijin, if it does happen wouldn’t surprise me.

I proved to you that spikes were used with pointing out the exact launcher being used on rct 120 and i showed how the ARC 30 specialy was named on the leclerc evolution and embt.
How is that not considered prove?

It was a German-French company, but the project was done by the Germans themselves, with no French involvement

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Massive +1

I am still not sure what the 3 shots in 10 seconds means, does it have a ready rack’ish system for first 3 rounds can be shot in 10 seconds or is the fire rate just stated weird as 3 shots per 10 seconds so 18 shots a min.

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the tank only got a total of like 20 rounds, the turrets unmanned. So it just means a reload rate of 3.3 seconds

it also depends on how you start counting.
it could be with the gun empty which means a fire rate of 18 rpm
or with the first round already loaded which means they start to count at the first shot and stop at the last shot. which would mean 12 rpm