Yes ,but you are talking about what ifs etc.
As it stands the leclerc evolution as we know it does have german parts in it.
The EMBT turret was designed from ground up together between gwrmany and france
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What? No HE-DP ammo for the 30mm? Why?
Its compatible with all 30mm nato ammunition.
Generaly dont believe to much in this suggestion
The guy has several mistakes in it like the type of rcws and the atgm missle being used. He believes to much into french cooperation in this project and that thr rcws and atgm are french when they are in fact not.
Quick example the atgm launcher is already known by the boxer rct 120 and supposed for spikes and not the MMP from franch
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This tank with Rh 120 L/55 120 mm smoothbore gun and 3rd generation thermal like Leopard 2A7 but features an active protection system (APS)
Sorry, I don’t know Leopard 2 A-RC 3.0 would be 12.0 or 12.3 BR
Not to mention. 2a7v hull and then greek era put on top
nope, it’s not compatible with all 30mm Nato
it use the 30x113 mm B which is specifically sourced to be the ammunition used on the tiger helicopter.
the Tiger uses the 30mm DEFA ammunition but also have the dedicated ammunition.
currently there is no proxy fuze in services. there is the SAPHE and HEI.
currently, no proximity fuze is known. this gun was designed 20 years ago. the drone warfare wasn’t yet a thing.
while it’s true there is a mistake is some of my suggestions, it remains that I use the more reliable sources available and sometimes it’s from the provider itself.
i know you are still mad about the Challenger 130 but here is what a good source looks like
the gun was made by Nexter, it would be natural to have Nexter’s ammo. they are already in game.
additionally, there is the Brazilian MIL-C-46578D from CBC defense which is also compatible and has API rounds
the gun is not compatible with the round made by General Dynamit as far as I know.
@Ghostmaxi here is the answer about the 30mm. the gun wasn’t designed for drones, it’s for close defense. they might have a new round but I saw nothing so far. currently, the ammunition is designed for air-to-air and air-to-ground.
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the BR is going to be raised if Gaijin sees the need for it.
the aircraft is already going as high as 13.0 the tanks could be raise too.
there is still a lot of planes to add. especially from USA. the BR would need to be raised eventually. tanks too.
i would not be surprised to see the limit at 15.0 eventually. this tank could easily be much higher than 12.3. surely above 13.0
how about we first look at the spreadsheet of the damn leopard 2 A-RC 3.0 itself which you havent realy referenced and should have added them here themself
then there is the obvious different turret
So why do you just say its the ARX 30 you dont know that it is. You just think it is. You have no document stating it is this specific rcws
And btw since you want proof so much, here is the rct 120 turret which the leo 2 arc 3 is based on. Ignoring the rcws which is 12.7mm here
We see the atgm launcher. which is specialy named as spikes
i am not mad, you just are stating things that factualy arent completly true
Both the leclerc evolution and the embt adt 140 both specialy state the ARX30 in their spread sheets. Did you try bother to think about why the leopard is the exception? Maybe because its a different gun or sth they are working on
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There is a issue the turret, armor and hull are patented under KMW
Yes, we need it, BR like 13.0 or something, together with abrams X, t14 etc
You haven’t proved that at all. It is far more likely to be the American M230LF, which KMW has used in their previous RCWS FLW500.
Gun compared to FLW500
Gun compared to ARX30’s 30M781MPG
Not to mention that the M230LF also states NATO standard 30x113 (which ironically your source on the ARX30 fails to mention):
Here are my sources:
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could be. i will keep an eye on it to see if the gun was not simply wrong.
i got to admit, this gun was identified as M781MPG is based on the identification of the barrel and the fact the KNDS was using this gun on related development. there is no source mentioning the gun as the M781MPG
in which case, the 30mm will surely have access to the proximity fuze as well as more punchy ammo
what you call factual not completely true are the only sources of facts.
i still have not seen any source that says otherwise outside “I said so”
man none of yours do either and the gun its the most look alike to the one shown in the leopard 2 ARC 3.0 also the tank was a tech demonstrator specifically from KMW who had patented the turret the modular armor for the turret the autoloader and some other stuff found in the tank
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So there is HE-DP ammo. :)
bully light tanks and helicopters equally if its capable of using airburst
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still it’s KNDS. not KMW.
under KMW, to simplify you the combined company still does work by themselves in this case KNDS deutschland its KMW and they even specify on documentation
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i literaly showed you prove
and compared the guns.
Your only prove is “i said so” when i pointed out prove that it most likely isnt the gun you ignored it. You have to prove its the ARX 30, i only said its not the arx30 i did not claim its a specific rws because i dont know which one it is. But you state you know when its not possible
fact is the ARX 30 isnt named when it is named everywhere else
You think a company like knds would do a basic mistake like that?
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nexter and kmw still exist under knds
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