This is just cringe… you can definitely pen panthers with a jumbo, or if you aren’t feeling on par to it, just hit the barrel, they can’t run away anyways.
It’s even crazier you think the long barreled version should be 6.0 XD
5.3 shell and mediocre, shattery and not super accurate in shell landing spread. also not the best APDS available at the BR, charioteer has the better gun and Ratel has an ATGM
the armour will stop a tigers 88mm and nothing more not even a panthers, its at tiger 2, IS2 and American T34 BR
its a late 1945 tank using late 1945 tech, its balanced with the other lighter armoured 1945 tanks.
I said the jumbo is slow. don’t skim read and perhaps you would understand the context of the sentence showing I’m talking about the jumbo.
the angle of the casting compensates for cast being worse quality steel than rolled
just like the black prince, decent gun, great armour poor mobility (id say BPs slow speed is made even by the reverse and neutral turn) and very easy to counter if you use your second braincell. Exact same weakspot too.
Yes the pt76 is stabalized… with poor mobility, and the worst heat fs round in game.
Yes I’m going to skim your post since a lot of it makes little sense in the form of balance.
Even IS-2s / tigers etc can bounce on the front of a cent mk 2 super easily.
The gun is way better, along with shell is better than on the BP over the jumbo. Jumbo makes up for it in APHE,
You can angle in the BP and actually live quite a large margin of shells. Even HE slingers.
If I didn’t know any better, your advocating for the BP to be 6.3
Tiger nor jumbo are slow. The BP is, and of course it is.
nah bro really used a hull MG on the panther as a weakspot and good luck actually hitting those “penetration possibility is low” spots that are as wide as a hair on it too lmao.
if they had made it the planned meteor powered one then sure 6.3 works. its in the right spot at 6.0 having the same strengths as a long gun jumbo and equally good guns
Heavy cruiser A41 centurion was built to be resitant to Tiger 1s gun, and it very much is. if you cant get the IS2 BR471D or even the standard BR471 to go through you SUUUCK, that’s going through the upper plate from a kilometre easily and the D shell at 2km like butter, the tiger 2 doesn’t even notice centurion armour until you’re at the 5/1 or mk10 at 7.7 and 8.0
the flat pen of the APDS means you can duel with a lot of tanks but I would sacrifice a lot of pen for HE filler any day. if you ever play early APDS types you would get it. and you can angle the turret but there’s always a weakspot to exploit on the hull.
the tigers substantially faster than a jumbo. and the non existent reverse of a sherman stunts it the point that a BP is just as good in urban movement as it can actually fall back and has a smoke thrower to blind an aggressor.
substantially just like the reverse gear from Sherman’s to the T-34-85s are such a massive difference? Woo a whole 2.~ mph difference? Won’t get you out any faster, you’re likely dead no matter what.
Jumbo is good enough to be 6.0, BP is slow but able to be 6.3.
Ah yes! The super trolly armor that will more often eat 122mm, 100mm etc. there’s a typically 50/50 when the 122mm will be eaten. 100mm is like 80% eaten 20% pen. It’s even worse if angled even slightly
I tell u, its not going to be lower then 6.3. Thats i am 99% sure about it lower wo make no bloody sense and even on that br it will roflstomp everyone. If it would be a prem i would play that killer till they make it 7.0…
Cent mk 2 is bullshit at 6.7, dont compare it to that thing, but cent is slow and has shitty armor and gun placement in the turret, not really fitting as a medium tank.
T20 is at 6.3 and if i continue playing it they will make it 6.7 soon…
T34-85 with similar stabi would then need to be 1 br lower at 6.3. But making it 6.0 from the getgo makes no bloody sense.
And guys… USE the fkn capped aphe on the 85mm! Holy shit ure all using the wrong ammo!!! Ffs!!!
Theres a reason why jumbos are so high br these days… as u can eliminate weakspots with bushes and u have apcr against panthers and shooting cupola works for tigers and is-2.
Side armor is paper with 38mm but if u dont suck u can shred whole teams apart. Or u used to be able to, before they added artillery and sweden apds, israel heat and wheeled flankers. At that br.
Yes it does make sense… it’s logical, it’s not getting add on armor, it’s getting a gimmick. That is only effective when stopping for the most part. Tack on an additionally 30mm frontal and 20mm side armor, and boost the HP by 150 and then we will make it 6.0 or 6.3.
I tried this. Went terribly. Non-penned a Tiger 1 twice, then ghost rounded 3 times. Out of 10 shots fired. Soooo good.
Hey, not my fault if ure aiming bad… the capped ammo is better, even if u believe otherwise… would say u should listen to better players… bud u dont listen to me so why u would listen to them?
Stabi t34.85 will not come and stay at 6.0. And what is that for an argument that u need to stop for shooting? The stabi is excakly for the opposide, to shoot while driving. Why would i need to stop?
If that think comes at 6.0 without br 367 i garante u u i will do a 70% winrate with it. And with the br 367 likely even 75%.
Still undecided if I should grind this one.
It will be good SL printer and the grind will be relatively short, but I have already USSR researched past rank 4 and the tank is just a copy of tech tree version (I don’t care about the skin).
Plus there is nothing in Warbond shop, that I would really like and thus grind for along this event.
Rank 3 prems are in every warbond shop. So if u wanna collect them, try the warbond shop. Its 100% free. That how i got a lot of prems, even the now rank 4 t20 that was 5.3 rank 3 back then
Just saing
But the difference from 400% to 550%+ in rewards is insane. Instead of 60k u get 100k sl, at least from how it feels. Will check the calc later.
I don’t think you understand what a thing about the game, which is unfortunate given your amount of played matches.
And unfortunately you like many people seemingly are way too biased to have a valid opinion on these vehicles.
It isn’t getting BR-367 no idea where you pulled that from
It’s getting a similar stabalizer to that of the Sherman’s which are 3.3 and up.
And oooh i apparently have bad aim? Why did I get a 14k 0 death, with a nuke game, after I swapped back to my normal BR-365s? Because they are better.