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Weird for someone listing the standard I use…

you are the one making rules and standards over smoke (alas, false scenarios that don’t happen, but you still do for the sake of “scientific experiments” (nerd emoji)

You are carrying on with the gaslighting and finger pointing a mirror.

You mean climbing at double the optimal climb speed and trying to zoom climb in props? I’m looking through your replays out of interest to see what these fine tunings are but tbh I’m just seeing you airspawn an AU-1 and still get outclimbed by literally everything.

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Test drives don’t have replays; and my AU-1 was exclusively to target bombers so I didn’t care about being higher than fighters, I just needed to intercept the bomber.

Also @Mantis_Chat_Ban claiming I’m the one that made the rule “the standard is to climb in a way you can set yourself over the enemy while not killing your engines” is wrong.

Judging by your replays so is every other plane in your hangar. What you do in a test drive doesn’t matter, it’s obvious from how you climb in live games that you don’t know how to climb properly. I went into some test drives and live matches for myself, and the F7F-3 doesn’t even come close to something like the hornet in climb rate. I don’t know about the F8F-1B, but that plane’s pretty garbage by comparison to its peers. If you really want to make a point about climb rate, post a video instead of a couple of screenshots with a near 4km gap in altitude.

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Weird, I couldn’t match Mantis’s 45 meters per second at ~2600 meters altitude he screenshot earlier, with my radatiors set to 0 intentionally.



Then I remembered some things he said…

@Ub3rshadow
In live games I climb better than every enemy I’m climbing to be above, which I learned from Defyn’s videos in like 2021.

Videos are too large.
Also, Mantis is the only one to have “pitched up intermediately” as proven by the fact he got 45 meters per second in a plane that can’t sustain that even on 0% radiator.

How many people will claim “the standard is to climb in a way you can set yourself over the enemy while not killing your engines” is wrong today I wonder…

No prop climbs at 400kph, try something slower. In live games fair, the Hornet is always above, but that isn’t the case for the vehicles you tend to fly out.

I’m not the one climbing at that speed. Mantis is the only one that posted screenshots of that speed prior to me testing his screenshots.
I climb at ~300kph except in slower vehicles.
So save your advice for him.

I watched your replays, no you don’t. You have a habit of climbing at around 400kph most of the time, dipping below that every now and again. Mantis can take that advice too then. Most props tend to climb best between 270-300kph IAS, a smidge higher if it’s a heavy fighter with poor power-to-weight.

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You watched replays of me bomber hunting, which means I was only climbing to catch bombers not fighters.
And to intercept a Ju-288 I climb at a faster air speed to get ahead of the base.

So as I said:

If I want to climb against fighters, I’ll choose the most effective climb rate speed rather than the intercept speed.

So? Climbing is climbing, and you were below the bombers in almost all of the replays I saw. Just face it that you’ve been climbing poorly and move on. We’re off-topic for this post.

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“Climbing at 300kph is bad.”
Trash take.

Once again bombers are not fighters.

Read what I said and try again. Bombers aren’t fighters but you’ve still gotta get your plane up there to attack them. We’re still off-topic.

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Corrected my initial post with re-tests.
I used 3rd party information for the original C3 understanding.
And F7F had indeed lowered performance a bit since moving to 6.3 sometime after I finished spading mine; which only one person mentioned as a reply to someone else.

And F7F had indeed lowered performance a bit since moving to 6.3 sometime after I finished spading mine

No it hasnt. The f7f -1 got its engine’s fixed, and the f7f-3’s are better, but still not up to spec

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You can read the bug report yourself.

this is extremely noticable with the early jets from Britain. The entire game needs a BR rework

I see @Mantis_Chat_Ban is claiming everyone is wrong again.
Claiming that thousands of people that “just climb as fast as possible” are wrong just cause that’s the rules I and thousands of others use.

The fact you think everyone’s a fake is proof enough.

you keep gaslighting me assuming I think everyone is a fake. YOU are not everyone. YOU RazerVon are the only fake in this conversation.

are wrong just cause that’s the rules I and thousands of others use.

Sure, Defyn never overheats.




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Except the Hornet; these are screenshots of the beginnings of Defyn’s prop videos, which as usual, start when he already climbed enough and started engaging people. And he is overheating even on these props where it’s REALLY hard to overheat.

You didn’t learn anything from Defyn as when it comes to “climbing without overheating”. So no, they don’t use “your rules”, not even Defyn. See? I’m saying YOU specifically, are the fake, not the others.

and given the fact that “your rules” imply lowering the climbrate about a considerable percent you ain’t going to climb faster than everyone. We know what you do: you nose up a little and take the screenshot when the speed dump hits the mark of IAS + ascension rate you want. See? I’m saying YOU specifically, are the fake, not the others

Look, I can do it too, I can make the f7f climb like the Ki83.


The F7F is not even a heavy fighter, it’s only redeeming quality is the guns and it no longer has the nose authority to aim them anymore. Somehow it’s the very prop that the me262 can safely counter.

man is already replying… no time taken to read, at all.