and once again you switch topic and disagree with yourself. And you contradict yourself even within this new comment.
I already proved your screenshots are fake tests.
Says who? Nobody is able to get the f7f to climb like a ki83 despite how much they try. IT DOES NOT DO 26 meters per second, it does 19. It is the lightest of the three and yet it is the one that performs the worst.
ki83 non restricted takeoff til reaching 330kmh IAS and pitched up in a way i kept 330 ias constant, 29-30m/s climb rate, no speed loss, no climb rate alteration. Pitch 90, rads 40/35. (engine/oil). Short after the screenshot it started to gain more speed.
F7F non restricted takeoff til reaching 330kmh ias and pitching in a way it could keep the speed. It was impossible to keep a constant speed with a constant climb rate. It surpassed the ki83 below 700m then drastically dropped. It was either 300 ias or more than 24m/s climb rate. Pitch 95 rads 25/25. (engine/oil)
As I took the screenshot the f7f started to lose climb rate and next up, airspeed.
@FlipAllTheTables
I’ll just throw in a little technicality right here.
There is no way to WEP forever.
You heard that right. Any plane eventually will overheat when you continue to use WEP. Either that or they will run out of WEP.
Have fun with that eldritch knowledge.
I know there is no wep forever and that engines die if you wep for too long (or lose wep)
I am just saying that you will have to overheat a little to actually climb good. If maps were huge and campaigns looked like il2 sturmovik planes wouldn’t cook themselves. It’s a wall of death with piston engine bass, machine gun snares and cannon drums. Sounds like a deathcore concert, and deathcore concerts have wall of deaths.
Exactly the point of this topic.
@Mantis_Chat_Ban
Glad you and I agree that the F-7F climbs slower than the Ki-83.
No contradiction, just updated with modern information which I did days ago.
Can anyone give out some 8111 output values so we can end proving some planes are real bad for its br faster
you said that the f7f is on par with the ki83. But you deleted the post.
You even said that the f7f is better than a p47 (which can outdogfight k4’s) and a ki84 (which can outdogfight everything) and it’s a better f8f with airspawn, despite the f8f is fantastic at fighting griffon spitfires and other stuff in downward spirals thanks to it’s bad ER, while the f7f is just a free kill even head on if you waddle a bit.
You even said that the ta152C3 is better than the H1 because “it has a low altitude wing design”
These ain’t the only arguments you contradict yourself with. You also said that “climbing only valid when you don’t overheat”, then assume “you climb like defyn because you learned what he does” despite defyn does a balance trading thermal efficiency for performance and viceversa fluently across the matches. Then you said you climb better than everyone else while keeping your engines cool which is not possible as i’ve demonstrated. You ignored the graphs and faked your tests (and called my tests fake) despite they match the graphs that FlipAllTables and others have sent you.
The F7F and the Ki83 are the worst 6.0-6.3 planes in the entire game. The F7F is fast and has good guns but has no engine performance and turns like a boat, the ki83 has great engine performance but is slower than a bomber and has god awful guns.
The situation of “mig15 bis flies the same to sea vixen” is repeating all over again. And you are a huge problem for this community.
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Isn’t it fast as Hunter F.6/FGA.9?
I couldn’t catch him when I’m on MiG-17 or CL Mk.5
Exactly. So we use this to illustrate what AlvisWisla is doing
@Creastroy
You mean acknowledging that F-7F is in a different state today than when I played it…
And accepting facts presented by myself, Lyn, and others.
RazorVon being RazorVon 💀
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I’m not commenting much about f7f issues, but ta152c is a well-known joke itself
As I’ve said, can anyone just give out graphs and numbers from 8111 output to end all these things? by WTRTI or Voidmei or whatever
I’ve already corrected my initial post about Ta-152C. I was working on very dated information and forgot the timeframe I learned that information initially, thus should’ve investigated that particular one especially prior to posting.
F-7F also required re-investigating.
Weren’t you just going on about how you were testing the climb rate of the F7F in test flights? Pick a side and stick to it.
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@Mantis_Chat_Ban
I didn’t do the full test I normal do at that time, it was only later in the day I had to time to do the standard test.
No backpeddling, just acceptance of knew information.
I would not discount the f7f so much. It is clearly worse then the hornet. But id argue it’s easier to fly. I flew the f7f 1 and 3 pre and post patch, and I didn’t find any major changes in terms of rudder authority, which is the only other redeeming factor of the f7f
how is it easier to fly? It pulls a lot worse at high speed and it is such a restricted aircraft that even on head ons you will struggle to aim (mostly because everyone is small and nimble and only 50 cal tracers and m3 cannon’s default belts (half tracers) are the good ones. If you had good damage from stealth belts you could play it as a sneakeroo and make people die in unsuspected paths, just like i did when stealth an m3s were still good.
