Leclerc and Leclerc S2 are pretty much identical and do not deserve to be 12.0 with Leclerc SXXI, Leclerc AZUR, Leopard 2A5 and Leopard 2A6.
First the Leclerc SXXI has slightly better turret armor under the gunner sight and thermal sights for the commander. The Leclerc AZUR has AZUR ERA on the hull sides for better chemical protection and a laser waring receiver. Don’t even get me started on both Leopards just being better than the Leclerc’s in terms of armor and fire power.
In my top tier French line-up I don’t even use the original Leclerc and Leclerc S2. Both being replaced by the Dutch Leopards.
Lol no, the Type 90’s armed with only DM33 are doing fine at 11.3, I don’t see why the Leclercs aren’t doing fine at 12.0.
575 APFSDS pen with 5 sec reload is pretty good, especially considering Type 90 used to have 481 APFSDS pen with 5 sec reload and was still considered a good MBT.
The Dutch Leopards in French tech tree are purely fillers and since it was an idea I was opposite to it, but Leclercs shouldn’t be lowered based on your claims, I believe that the Leopard 2A5 and Leopard 2A6 are far inferior compared to the Leclerc S1 and Leclerc S2,
For instance why I think it shouldn’t be lowered at this current battle rating is:
The vehicle is in a hot spot where its armor could be way too much for lower battle rating vehicles at battle rating 11.7 range but at the same time questionable if it’s accurate or not for this current battle rating.
The Dutch Leopards has no better armor and firepower than the Leclercs, and specifically talking about the Leclerc, firepower isn’t, at least I believe, measured by singularly how much damage it can cause and how thick armor it can penetrate in a single shot, but how fast it can deliever this power.
And regarding armor is almost same-same or Leclerc has even better values, obviously the Leopard 2A5 and Leopard 2A6 has better armor layout but at the same time lighter armor layout, it retains the same armor values from the Leopard 2A4 chassis.
Yes it is
Easier spotting of enemies gives u the opportunity to shoot first which most of the time makes u win the engagmen
Also the abrams is allready mid compare to other 12.0 and now after the basket nerf its even worse
It does not need to go up in br
I would rather they have excellent tracks like the M1, which would give Leclerc at least the advantage of maneuverability, rather than changing the BR. The tracks of Leclerc are really suck now.
There is alot of glowing things in your sight and in gen 1 its not that ez to spot hiding tanks when in gen 2 its way more clear
Gen 2 to gen 3 is small gap but gen 1 to gen 2 its big
I disagree and even if u can spot ppl if u go against gen 2 u are in disadvantge and he probably will spot u a bit earlier and this 0.5 sec is critical more so on a tank that get disabled no matter where u get hit
Sure, the HC/A2 reloads .3s slower, but it accelerates far better and has much more stable armor, especially around the turret. The Leclerc dumps its speed similarly to the Type 10 (Though not as bad), and has very poor acceleration. The Abrams more than makes up for that 5 km/h lost over the Leclerc in terms of armor, round, and acceleration, among other things.
