Leclerc and Leclerc S2 down to 11.7 now please

I didn’t mind it on the Strv 122B+.

Not a good enough reason for a different Br in my opinion.
Unlike Leopard 2A5 in comparison to Leopard 2A7 there is no major difference between the Leclerc variants that would matter in game.

Leopard 2A5 could be 11.7 or certain tanks like T-90M, T-80BVM, Leopard 2A7 and STRV-122+ could be moved up in Br but Leclerc is quite decent yet again with barely a difference between the variants as far as the game is concerned.

One could argue that the first Leclerc in the tech tree is the best since it is the lightest.

Better thermals as well as a thermal commander sight are nice but should not require a Br increase or decrease.
Up armoured sides and sights with some rubber pieces to go with it are lovely but barely worth the additional weight in War Thunder.

Just look at the Mirage 2000C S4/5 situation. Ridiculous.

Sure if we were talking about Leclerc covered in Russian sideskirts consisting of Kontakt-5 or better as they perform in game it would be a different story.

Now you’re just asking for artificial buff.

What buff?

Well its a meta tank and u have gen 2 on the commander

Commander thermals are blocked by a stupid cloth on the model so its only “usable” on perfectly level ground. But yeah, it is meta. The M1A1 HC is also meta, just not as good as the Strv/Leos.

The abrams arent meta more so after the basket changes
Im not saying they are bad but just mid

Eh, the shots that disabled you before are the same as now, the basket didn’t change much, atleast much that I could notice.

I disagree
Before the changes u could survive a hit to the lfp alot of the times and u could return a shot with commander overdrive
Now if u get penned u are done