In the same BR you can face things like FL-10 (182mm of pen with 5 seconds autoloader) M4A176 (Stabilizer 76 gun) Italian Firefly (Same gun and APDS from Centurion MK1) STRV M42 (149mm of pen with 110g of TNT plus 3.0 seconds autoloader).
Panzer IV is made of paper. I prefer face panzer IV much better than Shermans or T-34.
Undertiered ?? specially the Hetzer?? LMAO.
Why every US fanboy in this game only cry about Germany???
Comparing slow paper thin shermans with solid AP, and a Sherman with only 152mm pen to a VK 3002 is wild
I too would prefer to face a singular Pz.IV over a singular Sherman or singular T-34, but when the entire enemy team is Pv.IV, you can’t angle against all of them.
Why are you talking about Germany when you haven’t even played it? Hetzer is goated, and Jagdpanzer IV is extremely oppresive towards tanks with weak cannons, e.g Sherman, T-34, Kv-1, Cromwell, etc. The only thing keeping Jagdpanzer IV in check is tanks like M10 and Su-85 which are strong enough to deal with it. Hetzer, on the other hand, can’t even be penned by a 3-inch, and can easily bounce Soviet 85mm with abit of angling.
US? you mean USSR? This is a Kv-7 discussion, which- and I would know this unlike you, is Soviet.
Brutal skill issue here.
If you exposed your tank against the enemy team, the only problem is you play style not the tank.
What???
And more skill issue here.
Clearly this seal means “Union Soviet” LOL
Brotha really thinks Kv-7 is American 💀💀💀
You reading compression is on par with your playing style LOL. US mains power !!!
I’ve got it but lose all my motivation to play due to burnout lol but the other day I saw someone on Reddit posting his amazing stats playing it and he claims this thing is crazy good, the numbers went like 100-ish kills with only 7 deaths.
The KV-7 should be at 4.3, no questions asked.
Remind me again, how many times was the Russian 45mm found on all low BR tanks nerfed? 11? Thats great!
I really wish they kept it a lower br, 6.3 for the base is2 seems tragic compared to when it was 5.7. tbh I wish it could stay that br
But that is not without reason. The VK.3002 has a horrible reverse speed, and turret rotation speed compared to anything else (including the T-34-85). The armour of the VK. 3002 is not too great either, and is only fairly reliable in a full downtier / guns with less than ~135mm of penetration.
The T-34-85 also has a much more devastating round, with 5.655x as much TNT per round, albeit it has worse flat and angle pen (but is enough to go through the front of almost any tank at the BR anyways). The T-34-85 can use its engine as armour (while using its good reverse speed), allowing it to be fairly immune to APHE from the hull (other than PzGr or getting hit in the turret).
The VK.3002 may be fine at 5.0 (maybe 5.3 if we’re pushing it), but I don’t see how the T-34-85 should go down in BR.
As it should be.
The plane was devastating at 4.0 after it had been given APHE, so increasing its BR to 4.3, which is making it face better SPAA, and be a bit less effective against aircraft, is a warm welcome.
Aren’t you just giving Gaijin more of a reason to increase its BR again?
Why are they still using it at 6.7?
Maybe because it’s still quite effective at that BR, and is very easy to research?
Agreed, although this is the same with the M26.
SU-100 is somewhat rough at 6.0, but it’s somewhat reasonable.
Its UFP can stop M62 shot, which is one of the most common rounds American tanks use. The only problem I see with the armour is that the cupola is only 45mm thick, which means any APHE round can penetrate it and deal splash damage to the crew.
However, I found that it is quite inconsistent, more so than the Tiger H1’s cupola and the IS-1’s.
I can see it being 5.7, but it may be a little too strong. It’s similar to the Su-122P, except it has a much better reload for similar penetration and damage outcome.
Nashorn and SU-100P are vastly different tank destroyers.
The Nashorn is sluggish, with the HP/TON of 12.35 instead of the SU-100P’s 18.53 HP/TON.
This, along with the SU-100P being extremely stable (despite not having a stabilizer), and having an actual turret makes the SU-100P a lot more useful than the Nashorn.
The Nashorn also has only 8km/h reverse speed, whereas the SU-100P has a reverse speed of 24km/h, which is incredibly good.
The slightly better round and 6.7s instead of a 7.5s reload does not compensate nearly enough for the benefits that the SU-100P gets over it.
I can see the BTR-80A underperforming, and I would personally put it to 7.0.
However, the IS-3 is reasonable at 7.3. Most 6.3s cannot penetrate it reliably from the front, and even a lot of 6.7s cannot either. The gun is still adequate for the BR, and the post-pen damage and angle pen of BR-471B / BR-471D is great.
Both of these together makes it quite a powerful vehicle in full downtiers, and even at its own BR.
This only starts suffering in full uptiers, especially against fully stabilized dart slingers (like the T-55A / Type 69), but this is common for many heavy tanks.
Look at the Jumbo 75mm, which has to face the Tiger II H.
Look at the KV-1 (ZiS-5), which has to face the Panther D.
Look at the Tiger E, which would have had to face the IS-3, if it had stayed at 7.0.
It’s mostly about T32, Conq, M103, Maus and even Leo 1, M60 AOS and damn Turm 3.
The armor of the VK is better than any other tank at it’s BR, except for the uparmored KVs - but those have a terrible gun and are sluggish slowy. It’s gun is way better than any TANK DESTROYER at this BR, and the T-34 only has 9 kph in reverse.
KV-1C is at 5.0, and it’s gun is good enough for the BR to deal with most armour (other than in full uptiers).
The KV-85 has an incredible gun, arguably better than the Panther’s at that BR due to better TNT equiv.
Its armour decent, but its main attributes are the good turret armour and the fact that it can use its engine to absorb rounds, like the IS-2.
The VK’s armour is good in a downtier, at best, and isn’t nearly as good as something like the Panther D is at 5.3.
Much better than the 4km/h that the VK has.
Another German tank, isn’t it a cool coincidence?
VK’s gun at 5.0 is like playing with cheats, it’s a point and click adventure.
Since when are 100 mm enough when the more mobile, better armed, better armored VK has over 190 mm of penatration? Also, KV-85 has the same hull armor as the 3.7 KV-1, which cannot even protect you from M61 shells.
More like absolutely overpowered in a downtier, since even it’s cupola is imprevious to most 4.0 tank guns.
Pure piece of nonsense, there is no reason in the world for the Panther D to be the same BR as the Comet, T-34-85 (D-5T) and so on.
Still not ven close to enough for the reverse armor trick. you need at least 15 kph to be somewhat effective with that.
Are you going to say ‘German Bias’ now?
Same with the KV-85’s, but it actually one shots most opponents.
Since when was BR-365A unable to frontally kill VKs with ease?
This isn’t correct. It’s a modified KV-1S hull.
You don’t need insane reverse speed to use your engine block as an advantage while you’re side scraping. 8km/h / 9km/h is good enough. The KV-85 even has 16km/h. Maybe try that instead?
I’d rather take the T-34-85 on most maps than the Panther D.
And here lies the problem:
Play more nations other than Israel and USSR, maybe then you’ll find out that stuff isn’t as broken as you think they are.
Most tournament players would rather use the T-34-85 over the Panther D… I wonder why?
I think the KV-7 is just the poor man’s KV-1E.
It’s good against anything that doesn’t have more than ~120mm of penetration, but it generally performs worse than the KV-1E, which is at the same BR.
