For anyone who don’t know Chinese community which English-speaking players don’t know much, there’s many players believe the Snail have its Russian bias and hate China, much more times than i see those who say Gaijin hate NATO armaments(not only in game but also in real world), they afraid, or believe J-20 would be implement with many mistakes in game and worse than Su-57. Although F-35 would be a non native C&P, the C&P makes it won’t be too bad.
The same things have already happen 2 times, which is Leo 2SG of Singapore(Leo2 are meta vehicles and will be better than ZTZ99As and VT-4 before these vehicles be fixed) and VT-4 for Japan(if VT-4 been added to Japan TT, its problems will be fixed rapidly)
TL,DR: Some Chinese players afraid J-20 or J-35 would have unfair performance in game in 5th gen so they asking for a F-35 and find the nearest country.
So it’s like if US players asked for the Su-57 or J-20 because they were worried about F-22 having unfair performance?
Id agree, but I dont think Tiger_tank is even a china main
well he said once
well you could said so
or like asking for an Egyptian MiG-23ML when MLD is meta top-tier fighter
It is shame to seeing that your weaponry are being underrated and filled with flaws
But I am sure this topic is dumb idea. :(
Anyway, Thanks for the extra info.
He isn’t Chinese main but I think he is a Chinese player.
I think I saw him on their national community and complained about ‘why J-7D cannot bomb’ there too.
And, Google Translate told me Chinese players in this forum also disliked his opinion.
Yeah the only place the J-20 will struggle is in dogfights
Cant imagine why he tried bombing when you have PL-5B on your plane.
But there’s one point i forget. Even someone is not a Chinese main, he might support make Chinese vehicle stronger and say he won’t grind or even he suggest remove China TT cause it’s too bad.
The Iranian F14 was added to the US tree because it’s an American plane. That is a major part of the situation to leave out.
I don’t main any nations. I play all of them.
This is exactly it. It’s why I support Sherman’s in every country, much to the dismay of sim players The key being that there will be an neutral option for those who simply want to play the game using conventional playstyle that lines up with majority of other nations. Neither overpowered or underpowered vehicles are desired outcomes after all.
The Sweden tree is a example of that. Its vehicles can be unorthodox or downright weird to play.
This is not to say I want every tanks to be copypasta. Far from it, I think only “jack of all trades” widely exported vehicles, such as the F35, leopard 2, M48, Sherman, mig 21, should be copypasta.
^I meant to reply to the comment above me
While I will admit, that is a good idea, giving every nation the same vehicle when they have domestic alternatives isn’t
I can support the F-35 going to china through either Korea or Singapore, that’s fine, just as much as I can support a Czech one in Russia, (I dont like the idea but whatever)
But I’d much rather be supporting the domestic alternative (J-20) over it, even if it does “break the game” China’s been deserving of their gamebreaker for a while, especially in the slew of “Muh F-15E/Su-30SM/Eurofighter, Gamebreaking! Unbalanced! Poo!”
Which is what makes the nation unique in it’s own right, but not exactly unfriendly to beginners (Finland offers familiar faces like the T-34, Panzer IV, etc.)
I don’t want the F-35 to be the new Sherman, unless they place it exactly at the end of the lines I’m working down :)
because China doesn’t have any 5th gen aircraft, like the J 20, or J 35…
You don’t need to have an identical aircraft or anything for everyone.
Differences are fine.
Remember, war is made to be asymetrical
because base bombing is essential for fighters…
This is borderline abusing the bad game mechanics in air rb
Yeah, you’re bombing with all of them.
Still, there is no need to steal F-35 from SK to make the neutral option for you.
If you want F-35, pray that ROC somehow manage to buy F-35.
That is the only way for you guys to get the F-35 in the Chinese tech tree.
SK sub-tree for China? Because nothing but japanese has a complicated history with SK?
My historical sight of asian history is short.
But AFAIK, Chinese invaded the Korean peninsula as many times as we invaded the others. :/
What are u talking about, all the in-game NK skins are for the USSR tree, China also stopped supplying vehicles to NK past the last J-7 and Q-5 transfers.
skins arent vehicles if they where got to warthunder wiki on NK vehicle and there is only one
bro，North Korea, though an ally of China, is even closer to Russia.And while China and Russia are allies, their officials are constantly disparaging Chinese-made weapons.
Domestic designs that they ripped off from everyone else through very illegal means.
Im not going in that direction, neither i am going to comment on their performance; point is that china is one of the three countries that has their own 5th gen designs, and it does not need copypaste F-35s in any way shape or form.