Why ? If anything, it shows that the update is on track to release soon, since they’re confident enough that the things in the video will be ingame soon to show them off. Just like last update.
German hull usually. A engine also is as important as the gun or turret…
Neither France nor Germany had those vehciles in service.
The choices regarding the placement of certain vehicles are inconsistent anyway.
For me, a subTT has to bring something new that doesn’t exist (or really modified) in the game.
A subTT should not add a vehicle native from another main War Thunder nation, as this only breaks the originality of the nations in the game, and makes some of them “useless” or demotivating to grind if, in the end, you can find that nation’s vehicles in another TT which will also have its own vehicles.
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So basically the opposite of the Finland tree.
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tanks like df105 should be in both trees but tanks like marder 1s on a french chassie should only be in germany
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This.
Still piss me off than Germany have the only 100% French build 105 oscillating turret of the game, and France still didn’t get it’s own “promised” vehicles with this turret.
And this works for a lot of tech. Take the MILAN Atgm. Build by France and Germany, French name and acronyme, still none for France.
Etc.
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Milan 2 is only in the british tree too not even germany on a marder platform
That 's not really the reason Gaijin have stated they add subtrees for, in each case their justification for them has been to add additional options for capabilities largely not present using domestic vehicles( lineup creation, usually ).
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tbh I think gaijin needs one year or more for a vehicle which means they are really inert to what these nations need for example ifv for israel and france.
This would make sense aswell for datamined vehicles which take most of the time one year + till release
And that’s how some historically “inferior” military nations suddenly become more interesting and powerful than others that are “alone”.
Just look at the number of people who have been worshipping Sweden ever since they got a subTT and premium/OP squadron vehicles just because they tested/trialed them.
not only that but sweden has a huge amount of unique vehicles (in the tech tree), which makes them interesting to play while other gets these vehicles only as event vehicles
At least both use some of them.
Still 0 Milan launcher for France.
And that’s just one example.
Could have given Milan to the amx10P and put it higher as IFV, but no, among the big choice of SPAA for France they give us this 50° limited 20mm “IFV”.
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No, you need to add it. This is because most of these countries do not have the ability to develop their own products and end up importing products from other countries.
In any case, I have to say that it is quite difficult, and above all, I think it is disrespectful to the country that operates it and the country that developed it. Wouldn’t it be a “useless” if I didn’t add it? It’s humiliating for developers…
The problem is that this makes nations stronger and more interesting (and therefore more players and more care on Gaijin’s part) than other ingame nations that don’t have these gifts and should theoretically have even more vehicles by themself.
They don’t have the abilities, so we’re going to give them what make them even more powerful and interesting than others nations that have been in the game longer?
Thanks, but no thanks.
I’ve been asking for the Yonkav-2 for an ungodly amount of time…
It’s not 100% French but the 105mm modification is originally from Nexter.
To be honest I’m fine with where the AMX-10P is going. But hopefully we can beat into the dev team that a Milan equipped vehicle is still needed.
It’s a retrofitted Amx 13, could work. And it’s a choice between many, we also could simply get Amx-13-105.
I like to say that if gaijin adds a sub tree to a nation then all of the sub tree tech should go in that nation.
I’ve seen too many people go add the domestic stuff to X then add the C&P stuff to the related nation.
Then you sir don’t have a clue what a sub tree is.
I’ve seen too many people say this stuff now.
As people say SAAF French jet’s should be in France because it’s French but no.
A sub tree/nation is still a nation on it’s own
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At this point I don’t care as long as the vehicles I care for are being added.
If there’s a link between the nation receiving the subTT and the subTT, yes, but if the subTT uses a vehicle that comes from another nation already in WT, there’s no reason why the first nation should receive it, as it has no link with this vehicle.
Wait until this guy sees the blood war when Switzerland and Belgium go to either just France or Germany.