anything exciting happen the past 2 days?
Weekend so not realy
Spikes to choppers. Veery good.
eh imo nothingtoo exciting happened before the weekend either so yeah.
also if more nations are getting fire and forget missiles why arent the apaches getting the 114L…
Teaser and dev server aint exciting?
bad version of the F-111, another arty, another map, air rb remains insufferable, need i say more?
I mean it’s not a hugely exciting update. However that was to be expected as this is supposed to be a smaller update.
Oh I don’t know, maybe because 114L are far more overpowered than spikes in their current state can ever hope to be?
Spike helis
with the way fire and forget works in wt rn there wouldnt be a noticable difference between the two. same range, always hit center of mass making it so it usually doesnt kill anything that cant get overpressured easily, and if anthing the fact its radar guided would just make them more scuffed to use knowing warthunder. the spikes got changed btw, the ER now has 1000mmof pen and stuff like that
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Except spikes can’t be locked unless you have almost the entire vehicle visible (so no hull down locks). Meanwhile 114L can just lock and fire as soon as it has a radar ping.
Also a single pop of smoke is enough to lose the IR lock. Meanwhile entire parts of some maps become off limits as soon as an 114L equipped apache takes off, as the only way to break lock is to hide behind solid cover like a house or rocks.
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thats assuming you notice the spike being fired at you. also since youre usually much higher up considering its a heli the hull down is much less of an issue. not to mention its not like the radar on the apache is doing such a good job at actually finding stuff. not only that but radar also suffers form the hull down nonsense, play the khrizantema, youll see.
and ialso just remembered that laser guided hellfires suffer from the smoke puffs too, except with hellfiresyou need to remain exposed to maybe have them hit what youre aiming at so the apaches are even more miserable in that aspect
You are naming thing that dont work right as reasons why it can be implemented, but that is a problem at one point it will be fixed and the missles will be completly OP then
just because its radar guided doesnt mean its a guaranteed kill, sure, itll go through smoke, but basically noone smokes up on purpose for heli missiles because basically no one sees them coming, that wouldnt make much of a difference. they will still suffer from all the other nonsense other fire and forget weapons suffer from and i honestly have no faith in that ever being fixed before ive died of old age considering its been like this for years and gaijin has ignored enough bug reports for me to just give up on it
Not seeing them is no reason to allow them and sure people do that if they are aware of the heli, which happens basicaly happen right after the first kill. Or the SPAAs that are aware of the heli and fight it, they cant win that duel because they cant protect themself after they possibly killed the heli with smokes like they currently do for the pars 3 because the longbow will always hit true
ok so im guessing you havent used hellfires so far. theyre miserable. a heli with laser guided hellfires basically doesnt stand a chance against a half competent aa player. the same half competent aa player will usually shoot down missiles anyways, the only difference this makes is that the apache doesnt instantly get atomized. also iirc tanks can actually equip chaff so just having a few of those in your smoke launchers will help too ifgaijin choses to implement those
Yes that umbrella propably leaks, you are right with that
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Doesnt matter about how hellfires work, we are talking about f&f variant with radar which has this specific problem in a missle duel, besides that war thunder tries to stay true to real world and not every vehicle equipped chaff , only those that did would get it
No it will likely just atomize 5-8 tanks before some AA finally gets it, if the Apache player screws up.
I’d rather have that other helis move down to Apache levels of performance.
Someone call me retarded, but that looks like a mix of a m-10 booker and a Bradly with an interesting muzzle brake, reminds me of something a bit more realistic to be added.
Like this with STRV 122 B barracuda MCS