Kings of Battle - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion (Part 1)

No, it very much does not. It is powerful, yes, but the player still needs to know what he is doing. Having the IRIS-T would remove all necessity for the player to be good.

Ok, i misread your post. But it does not change the fact is would be unfair beyond any doubt. 60g thrust vectoring missile with ability to lock after launch and engage targets bechind plane it is launched from, and acording to wikipedia (not the best source, but i just typed the name in google) five to eight times longer head-on firing range than the AIM-9M. And dont talk about platform. UK got F3 2 updates after f16 and mig 29, yet it god denied 9m, despite beeing much inferior platform.

Have you recently played Mig-29 with R-60 vs. Aim-9M’ed F-16 blobs? Its so drastically onesided, Iris vs 9M wouldn’t even remotely as unbalanced.

I dont want to be rude, but you are on copium real hard.

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  1. The MiG-29’s best short range IR missile is the R-60M, not the R-60, and 2. the F-16C’s counterpart is the MiG-29SMT, not the MiG-29.

Also I don’t feel like playing F-4F ICE with IRIS-T and only AIM-120B at 13.0+

Bad airframe imho.

That is completely and utterly irrelevant.

Aim-9L/is apparently a little better IRCCM than Aim-9M. Just no smokeless motor and everything else is the same. You want to bring a next gen IR missiles. Something so advanced that nothing could ever compete, Why?

Aim-9L/I = Aim-9M = R-73

IRIS-T = ASRAAM = R-73M/R-74

Otherwise, ASRAAM please on the Gr7, Tornado F3, Sea Harrier FA2, etc.

Nah its just a Phantom at the end. Never. Spicing it up a bit with Iris would be appropriate.

A Phantom with unavoidable weaponry.

I think it’s perfectly reasonable to hold off on things like IRIS-T for a while considering it’s light-years ahead of everything else in game performance wise.

Putting it on a “worse airframe” like an F-4F ICE doesn’t change that fact either. It’s still 2-4 free kills against anything in WVR.

Personally I think what we should be focusing on is better maps/game modes and gameplay for top tier because what we have right now just ain’t it chief. And asking for one of the most powerful AAMs in the world to be added right now isn’t going to help things only make them worse…

Suggestions Passed to the Developers - September 2023 - Suggestions - News - War Thunder — official forum

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Wow I only went to look at one video hehe

A Phantom, that is a brick yes, but IRIS-T has 60g thrust vectoring ability with LOAL and ability to kill targets all around plane it is launched from.

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I would personally like for all top tier maps to be EC size so that BVR combat is actually BVR and not WVR masquerading as BVR.

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Do is see a Vulcan there :)

I do like the Israeli rank 1-3 air tree. Should help out the rank 1-3 ground too.

Tornado should also get Iris. Mabye it gets bit more viable, right now its pretty sad.

Yeah, the suggestion got past earlier today. Would be cool, but still a fairly low chance of coming