Fair, Just dont really think of that part of Europe being much of a military centre. Damn Luxembourg. Always fear the tiny nations. You never know when they’ll snap :P
Yea it’s often overlooked part of the world having France and Germany around it.
though I love to fly the unique Dutch bombers and attackers.
this one will for sure.

Certainly would be interesting. Though I think im expecting a “Soviet-Aligned” nation next. Sweden and Israel are both more “NATO-Aligned” so Poland or Yugoslavia (forgot about that one) with Warsaw sub tree I think would be my guess
South Korea was just a random guess based upon the addition of a few South Korean stuff onto other trees like the Vidar and rumours of K2
Yea that is true though Israel does have soviet vehicles too.
Here are some interesting Dutch aircraft.
For Benelux? Yeah.
All the same aircraft pic :P
Yeah, though at least in the context of SB. Israel is usually always with the US. Though both France and Sweden can be on Redfor side so doesnt necessarily mean anything (but I do hope we get some better team matchmaking. Typhoon Vs Typhoon with Britain vs Italy and Germany in SB is gunna be rather boring)
Yea just noticed so I’ve updated the link
Looks intersting for low tier at least. Ive kinda lost my patience for low tier aircraft these days.
I will assure you that it is not a ‘debate’ but a fact. :)
These are NOT ‘leaks’ as they themselves state on the SAAF’s official website.



Even if you were a kid and had a knack for finding ‘a guy in jeans and a sweater with red stripes’, you won’t find AIM-120 here!
Any other BVR?
Edit, answer my own question with reading the highlighted bit :P
So thank you. So Gripen from SA is not an option for 12+ then. Makes it 100% that our next jet is the Sea Harrier FA2 and or Tornado F3 CSP. Likely with the Typhoon very soon (next 6 months)
Gripen comes with 9Ms and AMRAAMs, that’s going to be 12.3 - 12.7 regardless of what people think.
Aircraft are given weapons they can use to justify their BR.
Typhoon, Rafale, Mig-29M, F-2, F-16Block 50, 2000s F-15Cs, etc will be interesting next year items.
Read above. South African Gripen never had AMRAAM. I also only see IRIS-T. So No Aim-9M. Unless they added Gripen with ahistorical loadout based upon what Sweden operates. But then that would be adding a Swedish Gripen not a South African Gripen.
Gripen C can use AMRAAMs and will come with them.
It’ll be 9Ms and AMRAAMs for Gripen C.
Stop calling South Africa “Sweden”…
Source for that?
F-16C/D manuals, cannot be posted on the forums.
I never once called South Africa “Sweden”. Those are 2 different countries.
The Gripen is developed by Saab. A Swedish company. and is Exported to South Africa…
South Africa never imported Aim-9 or AMRAAM. See above. Ergo, South Africa’s Gripen would never carry them and couldnt be added with them.
Unless you can prove otherwise that South Africa imported Aim-9 and AMRAAM
One more thing: Hungarian Gripens also have problems.
They introduced AMRAAM starting with the AIM-120C. It’s a pretty big improvement over the AIM-120B we’re expecting to get soon. AGM-65 also uses G/H version.
Most likely only in the swedish tt tho
Says who? Sweden or South Africa never operated AIM-9M, why would they get them?