Kh38. hammer - brimstone

“its personal opinion from gunjob, its trustable”

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‘gunjobs word is the word of god himself’

You do understand that IR seekers need to have specific parts in order to work properly ?
Those parts were identified and the conclusion was made the seeker was at least a prototype.

That’s like you need a written proof a car is car and looking at it while it’s driving on the road means nothing.

You could not provide proof whether the seeker was a real prototype or a mockup. More images of it being a mock up exist.

Proof has been provided, you not accepting it is your own problem.

The seeker head looks extremely similar to the head missie in the mockup workshop.

It looks far closer to the mockup in the mockup workshop.

Just to be clear everyone, the thing he’s so heavily relying on is from this

Which is again, a mockup missile at a trade show and not evidence the weapon actually exists.

Interestingly enough, the text seems to imply that this is a mockup of a AESA head

АФАР с синтезированной апертурой (для стрельбы по неподвижным целям)
(AESA with synthetic aperture (for strikes against stationary targets))

Although the image quality isn’t great and the attempts to make the text more legible may well have butchered it, but I don’t read russian so can’t really tell

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The funniest thing about this whole missile.

How many different arms conventions have occurred since 2017? Even before the ongoing conflict with RU-UKR, how many different times has this missile been spotted? The MT specifically?

You had Air India 2025, which had the ML on display. Sadly not a single soul got a picture of the placard next to the missile that showed up specifications. You had an air show in 2024 in China, which not a single person took a photo of any arms displayed, but got a magical brochure with an image of it being mounted.

You had all these Air Shows and other events from 2017 till present day Sept 17th, 2025.

Not once has a KH38MT been photographed. Not in the wild during an ongoing conflict where we’ve seen many other missiles, debris of missiles and even missiles that failed to detonate. Yet not once has this magical missile been photographed.

All of our photos are mockups, and one questionable image of it being mounted on a jet. Which again, doesn’t prove its real.

All the information regarding this missile, point to that it was probably a concept that never made it outside the concept phase.

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there is no proof that that was an actual seeker

just like there is no proof that a functioning seeker for it even exists

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yes, given that the seeker is clearly not an ML seeker and the missile is displayed as an ML it proves that the seeker is fake

I also love how on the other image, the bit that everyone says is a lens, looks a lot a reflection of the floor and a guard rail

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“balance” purposes ig. it IS gayjin we’re talking about here

That one had 38ME written on the side, further proving it’s a member of the KH-38 family.

yes further proving that it is a generic missile with a fake seeker

if the seeker was supposed to be an IR seeker it would have said MTE

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If prototype is enough, where is the IR guided Hellfire from 80s ?

why would you want that when you’re getting the JAGM now :think:

Like for early versions of the AH-64 etc?

Which would ironically put it in a similar league to the MMW/GNSS of the Brimstone, and in turn far more balanced lmao 🤣

KH-38M is a generic name for the whole family of missiles.

Seeker is confirmed to not be ML and there’s no TV version, so it’s pretty clear what it is.

Logical connecting of dots not possible for certain people.

‘Connecting the dots’ doesn’t confirm anything lmao, no amount of supposed logic is going to prevail over a simple document or piece of primary, credible evidence