Unlikely IMO. maybe a seperate radar unit which would enable certain nato AA to be added (such as the SLAMRAAM, IRSTSLAM)
Although very unlikely, didn’t they add dynamic coastal artillery to like one naval map? I know that means absolutely nothing but it is something. Additionally with seperate radar, there are many things ingame that in real life still have a seperate radar and support from air defense brigade (I know its not the same as like a mim-104 with the seperate radar, but you get my point). For britain the CAMM could honestly be added at this point in my opinion, adats is trash and camm really is the only other option for uk. (I dont know if britain has mobile camm yet, but Poland does using practically the exact same frame, just different truck, since they were in collaboration, polish vehicles already in uk tree, and polish tree not coming anytime soon it could be viable). Spyder could be added to israel, etc, etc. I think the current cas armament is fine, maybe even not enough, it just needs to be matched with proper aa. Cas shouldnt be easy point and click, it should be somewhat difficult, or just heavily raise sp requirement. Plus right now we havent had a new competent aa in so long and the only competent aa doesnt really face any competent stand off weapons
The mala narew does have a seperate mobile radar truck to support it (as many other vehicles ingame) but the mala narew could be implemented because it has a small search radar (see the big thing at top of poll) and the missiles themselves are arh.
If CAP cost 70-100 SP. I’d agree. The fact it costs 700+. mitigates the ability to spawn in effective CAP as a decent hard counter. Only the soviets have an SPAA that can meaningfully threaten top tier CAS.
Also. Only france has an AGM that even comes close to the KH-38. AGM-65 is slow, short range and lacks IOG. Brimstone is even shorter ranged and lacks any sort of FnF ability. Its laughable to compare KH-38 to Brimstone
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The issue is that the better dogfighters and on par CAS options are not on the same airframes. the SU30 and SU34 are the best CAS planes as they are the best overall. incredible missiles and a very usable airframe.
I can more than likely do just as much damage as KH38s with AGM65D missiles on my harrier GR7/T10 however I cant carry as many. I’m also far slower and don’t have the benefit of having pantsir on my side so ill be beamed out of the sky as soon as I’m in the position to rain down hellfire on my targets. i cant carry as many A2G munitions of the same style but i can bring 6 paveways but they arent fire and forget so are not practical
If I take a typhoon I have a superior CAP plane but still have to deal with pantsir and my ability to unleash the firepower of the brimstone is completely kneecapped as they are forced to stay on SAL mode. without their self homing or FnF the practicality is still worse than a KH38 slugger.
Russia DOES have a bias in their favour as they have the best SPAA paired with the best overall CAS option. there are equal in capability ordinances on other nations aircraft but never as practical and they arent backed by the best air defence from the gound
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and thats without even mentioning the Typhoon got the earliest possible variant of the Brimstone (that it never used) that doesnt even match the performance of an AGM-65 let alone a KH-38
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I’m not really sure if you guys live in this forum, because if anyone create a post talking about KH38 the same people show up to gaslight the creator. Anyways KH-38 is certainly the best Air-to-Ground missile that exist in this game, yes there’s the Rafale but Kh-38 is precise and fast and carries alot of explosives + the absence of Pantsir’s equivalent in the enemy team certainly benefit the pilot in vaporizing the whole team.
Even if they were winning you can instantly make them disapear with just 2 Su-30SM in air.
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“brimstone would be too OP if it was accurate” I genuinely don’t get why they even added it if they truly thought that, they just want russia to be the best while downplaying another countries capabilities
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And the radar hellfires (US and UK)
I’ve recently checked that everytime somebody create a post talking about Russia, the same people show up every damn time, is it a coincidence or they target these posts.
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I dont have implict issue with SAL-only as a short-term stopgap for the quantity advantage (though lets face it, we’ll be stuck with SAL only for at least the next year or 2) but what makes me really mad is that we only have Brimstone 1s.
SAL-Only Brimstone 2s would have been far fairer and they could have even maintained Brimstone 2s being SAL-only alongside MMW Brimstone 1s in the future. It would have been fine. But nerf ontop of a nerf. Just sucks. Especially given IOG hasnt been removed from the KH-38 (or AASM)
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Dual use brimstones are only brimstone one iirc, if you have docs proving its both the full send my guy.
You would also have to rip TGPs off every multirole plane for fairness aswell.
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you cant not mention where russia outperforms everyone else without pointing out things which have been held back severely to allow it
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Nah
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This should have been done back in 2024.
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Brimstone 2, 3 and even Spear-3s maintained the dual-mode seeker.
Then go prove it, im not a suggestion mod.
Its only fair if were ripping out functionality and armaments to create a level playing field like in Константинович7’s example. Im not saying or advocating actually doing it. Its also why I dont get behind the whole making stuff up for balance like the brimstone crowd consistently want done.
Yeah, they should just add the real MMW seeker and be done with it
And also add chaff smoke grenades
In each instance, the missile’s guidance system acquired its intended target from laser returns, before using its millimetre-wave radar “to ensure no escape and a direct hit”.
so was tested using mode 2
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But you can also just use your common sense. Brimstone 1 was given the laser seeker to provide the weapon a “man-in-the-loop” capability. It would be stupid to remove that capability from its replacement/upgraded version.
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