Kh-38 got big buff (hipocrisy) and SPAA effectivness

They manage it fine when people keep it civil.

And this isn’t the place to even bring this up again. Unless you want to start the toxicity all over again here.

KH-38ML had loal since they added it , i was able to fire it from behind a mountain , fly high once the missile gets close n lock the target 5-10 sec before it hits.

This is not LOAL. There is no self targeting. It is loosed and lofts on its path to the designated target point, assuming the laser is turned off. If it is turned on, the missile goes directly for the designated target point. The IOG of KH38ML facilitates it being launched at the target point, and upon it reaching the terminal phase, you can enable your laser to guide it far more accurately to the target.

There’s no “lock on” here outside of the missile following the laser designator. This capacity is on most missiles that have laser guidance and IOG/GPS. It is a glorified reacquisition of the laser. Applicable to bombs as well that have the combination of required guidance methods, provided the bomb can still see the laser.

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yea you are right , but we have had this feature on the kh38ml since its release right ?.

Yes. Just like many other missiles. Arguably even the missiles with only laser guidance provided they don’t just explode upon losing the laser, they can sometimes reacquire it, but they obviously lack the long travel period prior to lasing the target.

The change means nothing cause new SPAA exist that fire out to 40 - 80km.

Also the fact your post implies [indirectly claims] Brimstones are IR locking is wild.

Your post also claim USA, Israel, and Germany play with USSR most of the time which is false.

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Idk man it still should be addresed by glowjob. I never seen a thread with 9k+ replies. Glapblapjob ofc pretends like topic never existed while its just impossible to not see that big topic

Sry i m actually dumb xD. Later on the topic theres a guy that explained that LOAL doesnt work atleast for the time being

I will edit my post tho to dont make people lied lmao

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Only if the target didn’t move after launch and before it got within 12km.
USSR is not being buffed BTW.
Kh-38MT carriers are objectively inferior to the new SPAA being added.
With USA and Israel getting the best SPAA in the game, Germany getting the 2nd best.
China and Sweden tied for 3rd.

Any post claiming Kh-38MT will still be OP after all these new SPAA don’t realize that Kh-38MT users have to start from the runway now just like everyone else; Kh-38MT’s currently being OP on live server [a fact of course] will stop being the case when major update releases and people get these SPAA.

Any post claiming that Kh-38MT’s limited 12km lock range [1.5km if Gaijin ever changes Hammer and Kh-38MT] is larger than the 12 - 16km of the missiles, and 40 - 80km of datalink is just wrong…

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U replying to me?

That one is replying to you, yes.
Your post is only accurate if it doesn’t account the SPAA USA, Israel, and Germany are getting.
However, the new SPAA out-ranges all CAS in the game.
And if you play the Su-30SM the same way people are currently playing it [high altitude stand-off] you’ll die to Spyder, SLAMRAAM, and/or SLM before getting your missiles off.

What xD? SLM has 12km range then it loses all energy. Slamraam idk i tested it very poorly cuz its just broken so much atm

Slamraam probably has 12km range too. Its still amraam and easily dodged unlike IRIS-T,

I never said that brimstones are IR

I have no idea where i wrote that man xD. Could u please point it where i did write this?

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SLM has a range of 40km against a straight target, just like Pantsir has an 18km range against a straight target.
AMRAAMs are not easily dodged especially at higher altitudes.
And at lower altitudes there are AIM-9Xs.

Comparing missiles to IR guided missiles is implying all missiles involved are IR guided otherwise it’s a false equivalence fallacy.

Your post [hopefully unintentionally] omitted USA and Israel from your post, which have SPAA superior to the SLM.

And I see @Fluffy_Bucketles 's anti-reality.
Keep claiming we were wrong to call Kh-38MT OP, all you do is prove us correct.

That’s only in bad weather, yes?

Yet again, we see the fact that alvis will shift position at a moment’s notice to pretend someone calling them out is defending points they made earlier. To think, mate used to put some effort in.

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You know how Pantsir players launch on just-spawned vehicles?
Now that but with ARH/IR instead of SACLOS.
So if you don’t spawn airfield you have a ARH/IR guided missiles coming toward you very quickly.

I don’t get why there are posts still defending Kh-38MT, Hammer, and AGM-65D when SLAMRAAM, SLM, and Spyder are coming.

@Fluffy_Bucketles proving they can’t read.
There are no shifted positions present. Keep lying to defend your precious Kh-38MT.

Kh-38MTs are currently OP on live server, and were OP prior to these new SPAA.
The new SPAA make CAS no longer OP.
These are not contrary statements, they’re both factual statements.

Sure, but you implied that they were forced to spawn from the airfield, which isn’t the case unless it’s bad weather :)

You know war thunder players, they will always take the easy path, lol.

If they don’t spawn airfield they will die to SLM, Spyder, or SLAMRAAM instantly.

Bruh what the hell xD

Idk where did u get that magic 40km range. Its A LOOOOT. Curretnly it doesnt look like it has 40km range

I m not sure what u smoke but amraams are very easy to dodge especially up high and especially when its launched from ground with 0 speed

… What? XD

For now i cant say definitely. They are very broken at the moment SLM looks very promising at the moment