Kh-38 got big buff (hipocrisy) and SPAA effectivness

Well, it’s either Х-38МЛ, H-38ML or, if you for some reason want to follow the romanization slop, KH-38ML.

clearly thats not that case here , gaijin loves it when people use other type of vehicles in a ground match.

Yeah the fact it slowly floats means sams and spaa can shoot it down…If you don’t think a Missiles speed is important I don’t know what to say. Oh actually go and play a game of top tier and use only the HE round and report back with how many long range duels you won…

I wont bother waiting

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HE round are excellent to bonk hull-down tanks… if you dont use them in top tier, you’re are at disadvantage…

P.S.
KH-38 also can be shot down by SPAA (with the exeption of ADATS) and SAM’s

Nice try. Better luck next time.

Yes but use them the whole game take on that Leopard 2A7 with your HE round and see how many times you die due to the speed of the round. Because of course speed isn’t important? which is why in your Su-30/34 you are using the bombs and not the mach 2 missiles?

Shoot them down yes if they detect them, but they wont detect the Su-30/34 so they aren’t going to be looking for the missiles. And most SAMS can only track one target at a time (excluding the other super balanced Pantsir of course)

No of course not you are milking the most disgusting sweaty handheld weapon system in the entire game.

You die do to the speed of the round, I die do to poor positioning and flanking by the enemy. We’re not the same.

Most of the new SAMs can track multiple contacts in the cone of the tracking radara… just like the Pantsir

I dont have Strv 122+/Type 10 or Rafale, what are you talking about?

Oh yes the new SAMS

Wholly cope Batman, yes notice no Russian systems mentioned…

Aha…Please deflect more

Anyway this is a waste of my time. Keep abusing your not at all broken missile and maybe one day when Gaijin have the balls to add similar systems you will be fine with Brimstones having mmW
They are slow after all and easy for modern sams to shoot down

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No, as of the last dev server they were tracking only one.

Well I missed that. But aren’t all the new SAMs use IR/ARH missile, so you dont need to hold lock after they’re fired? Unlike the SACLOS systems…

not overpowered of course! Kh-38 balanced

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With varying success. Sure they can be shot down, but the fact that someone can launch 5/6 KH-38s from a safe distance, then do the same thing within 30s is crazy. You’d be running out of missiles and dying. There are so little spots for a good SPAA system on most maps that someone with half a brain can just spam Kh-38s on all of these spots, or pop out, spot you, lob from out of range and then rearm, lob again.

“just move your system”
Yeah. I love moving an entire AA system everytime an enemy Su-30/34 rearms. That sounds very healthy.
Note that nobody but USSR can do this, and its game deciding. This isn’t “oh Japan speedy tank and reload, only Japan can do this”, this is "Only USSR can absolutely oppress every SAM in the game. every SPAA.

While you might think so, but unless they managed to aquire the target (and that was bugged, ofc it was) they would miss without constant updates. So effectively you could engage 1 target at greater ranges (or sometimes at all, when missile seeker decided to not work)

Do I have post this again…

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Can you compare the 2 speeds?

Except these don’t reach nearly the same speeds as the Kh-38, and are therefore infinitely easier to shoot down. To be honest, yes it can overwhelm a system, however there is so much time that the system does not even need to shoot, they can just avoid.

edit - IN CONTRAST! The Kh-38ML* can do the exact same, at breakneck speeds and are pretty much unavoidable. The Hammers are definitely the best CAS right now (besides Kh-38) but comparing the two is crazy.
*wrong missile, edited

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Fr even adats can track hammer like 80%-90% of the time. Meanwhile its literally impossible to track kh38

My theory is that game engine is too slow for mach 2 agm for it to track properly without losing a lock. Idk what other reasonable reason can it be tho

could just be that its Radar/IR signature is screwed. It doesn’t go Mach-2 all the time.

Yeah except the Kh-38 is 10x times better, faster and deadlier than Hammers which makes this strategy viable on the Su-30/34, not to mention that Kh-38 aggressively lofts and stays above Mach 1 for the entire flight, they barely compare.

please take a look at kh-38mt