Kh-38 got big buff (hipocrisy) and SPAA effectivness

99% of CAS weapons the plane actually has to visible to the SPAA for the aircraft to attack it.

How the hell is that SPAA meant to fight back against that aircraft?

Why not? One of the main reasons MMW was denied is because it could be modeled in such a way that would allow planes to attack without being visible to the SPAA. How is this KH-38 tactic any different? Especially as they will LOAL

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Nobody is doing it?

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Because mmW is actually more problematic than GNSS, you know asides from being uncounterable?

GNSS has an easy counter

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Thats just stupid…

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Yes? What makes you think CAS is not bad regardless of Nation?

I still dont see the difference. There is no way a multi vehicle SPAA could defend against such a KH-38 attack entirely. They would almost certainly loose at least 1 or maybe 2 vehicles. Smoke doesnt work either.

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Moving does? Literally the only counter to GNSS. I am aware stuff is limited by design, but unlike mmW moving actually counters it

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How about just no Kh-38 since its clearly too hard to balance and giving anyone else something close would just be “too OP”. I mean, the missile seems to be the biggest issue here so why don’t we just remove it. Russia still has plenty of A2G capability. Let them have to get their hands dirty like everyone else. Because in on way is fair to have a missile you can use the moment you take off.

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Loner makes cool and fun content that is very far from meta. This is clearly visible in his stats.

Even those few who try this will quickly realize that this is an inefficient way to use 38ml and is only suitable for recording cool videos where you cut off all the unsuccessful takes.

Again… How can you move all 3 vehicles. Far enough to not be killed by the splash damage of the KH-38 in about 15 seconds. And what is stopping the pilot from spreading those around the area instead of a fixed point? Making escape impossible. Not exactly like hes got far to go to rearm and just spam even more. So what its taking 6x missiles per kill. He can just send another volley every 30-45 seconds. Eventually he’ll get everyone.

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with the addition of these modern advanced SPAAs one wouldve almost begun to think that gaijin was aware that CAS is a problem, thankfully they have assured us they only want to fuck over all top tier players, and have showed their commitment to be more out of touch than an actual corpse in a grave

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Would you have the same complain if this was the hammer morvran?

If so, then it’s the same problem with most SPAA not moving out of spawn in the 1st place (Not that they have a choice most of the time), so this is literally a lose-lose for spaa regardless if it’s the 38ML or Hammer

no the more popular the tactic is the more people will do it
hence there is no way to counter it
people who already have su-30/34 will start doing it
u have to realized that talking smack about “gnss is easy to counter, just move bro” is so stupid
how do you know when they spawn?
how do you know when they launch?
how do you know where are they launching it from?

some map has mountainous range that players can use this tactic to exploit which is no way balance for people on ground

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the fact that its physically possible is enough to realise its a laughable thing to add

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I actually do. Though AASMs are much slower. Giving far more time to react.

But if only 2 nations have viable CAS (and lets face it, barely anyone plays france) then there is a major balance issue there.

Also, not everyone has an SPAA equal to the Pantsir. Heck, even the new ones are barely equal to it.

But are you against Spear-3s and GBU-53s being added to the game? Along with KH-38 level weapons for every single nation?

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probably is for sure
only RU can have it

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No, cause they are IIR and not mmW. Cause CAS will always be cancer regardless

Spear 3 is mmW only though? Or SAL? IDK I just know the GBU-53 has IIR

iir require LoS to be effective
gnss u can fire safely from cover
kh-38ms are extremely deadly due to speed(2-3x faster than any other agm), explosive mass(equivalent to a 400lb, u only need 250lb to kill some trucks that are 10m away from each other, not even counting direct hit) and the range(u can gnss away up to 30km and it will still hit the target)
ofc the further u shoot the more time “target” can run away, but most airfield are 15km away from main map so u can effectively do this
it has more speed than prebuff slm, u know how ridiculous that is?

Spear-3 is GPS+SAL+MMW+IOG.

As we have seen with Brimstones, they can just pretend MMW doesnt exist.

So we can have a GPS guided weapon equal to the KH-38 interms of range.

But given we arent even allowed our historically accurate Brimstone 2s on the Typhoon. I doubt Spear-3s will be allowed. Typhoon isnt soviet afterall

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Yeah, but can also be easily countered. If you’re aware.

And if you’re not aware, any ordnance will kill you regardless