Kh-38 got big buff (hipocrisy) and SPAA effectivness

no the more popular the tactic is the more people will do it
hence there is no way to counter it
people who already have su-30/34 will start doing it
u have to realized that talking smack about “gnss is easy to counter, just move bro” is so stupid
how do you know when they spawn?
how do you know when they launch?
how do you know where are they launching it from?

some map has mountainous range that players can use this tactic to exploit which is no way balance for people on ground

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the fact that its physically possible is enough to realise its a laughable thing to add

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I actually do. Though AASMs are much slower. Giving far more time to react.

But if only 2 nations have viable CAS (and lets face it, barely anyone plays france) then there is a major balance issue there.

Also, not everyone has an SPAA equal to the Pantsir. Heck, even the new ones are barely equal to it.

But are you against Spear-3s and GBU-53s being added to the game? Along with KH-38 level weapons for every single nation?

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probably is for sure
only RU can have it

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No, cause they are IIR and not mmW. Cause CAS will always be cancer regardless

Spear 3 is mmW only though? Or SAL? IDK I just know the GBU-53 has IIR

iir require LoS to be effective
gnss u can fire safely from cover
kh-38ms are extremely deadly due to speed(2-3x faster than any other agm), explosive mass(equivalent to a 400lb, u only need 250lb to kill some trucks that are 10m away from each other, not even counting direct hit) and the range(u can gnss away up to 30km and it will still hit the target)
ofc the further u shoot the more time “target” can run away, but most airfield are 15km away from main map so u can effectively do this
it has more speed than prebuff slm, u know how ridiculous that is?

Spear-3 is GPS+SAL+MMW+IOG.

As we have seen with Brimstones, they can just pretend MMW doesnt exist.

So we can have a GPS guided weapon equal to the KH-38 interms of range.

But given we arent even allowed our historically accurate Brimstone 2s on the Typhoon. I doubt Spear-3s will be allowed. Typhoon isnt soviet afterall

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Yeah, but can also be easily countered. If you’re aware.

And if you’re not aware, any ordnance will kill you regardless

Let me guess…“Drive out of the spawn”
“Use smoke”
“Being Aware”

This jet took off and fired effectively FnF missiles without even being registered on Radar.
There is no counter to this type of play. Being aware of what? No aircraft ping, no contrails nothing.

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IIR can be counter because u have to have LoS which mean that they can also spot you
you have to know that most NATO radar isnt good because of how gaijin model it, i cannot even lock munnition with ADATS properly
you just need one friend or teamate to do the spotting with drone or rat scout and u are set for the rest of the map

Yes, no one does that. You can go play some 13.0 and notice that no one is doing this kind of stuff because it’s ineffective in a regular TRB match. Just like no one flies 20km from the map, launching one 38ml after another.

Its physically possible even now on live server.

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You don’t even have to smoke gnss munitions

no because its not in live server yet
the more popular the tactic
more people that are currently 38mt would do it
you could argue that “ it will take too long/no fun/less challenging” yes. But the people that want easy kill will just do it anyway
because u can fire, turn back rearm in 30 secs and do it again
fly to battlefield look for target actually takes longer to just do this

The issue is you dont know they are coming.
Yes currently in the Stormer…I see a Su-30 vomit it’s missiles and I pop smoke and move and I am always safe.

If I dont see the jet and the contrails I cannot react and I would just die.
At no point was that Su-34 in a position to be detected by any SAM.
It’s the perfect sneak attack while the SAMS focus on threats they can detect and can see.

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Also you know how the new spaa got powerful ESAs with NCTR? Surely seeing a radar ping with “Large” would make you do some defensive actions no?

Not through cliffs they havent. The Jet is barely off the runway perfectly protected by that big mountain

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some map u are surrounded by mountains, so u can basically just get of the ground and fire

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You could also take off and fly low and then launch them into the air over a mountain.
I can think of lots of maps that would work on.

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Oh were they? They added broken missile, paired it with the best aa proceed to release more planes that could carry them (when in reality couldnt), finally added new spaas after 1 or 2 years, completely ignored almost 10k reply post and proceed to buff the missile.

Were they aware? Absolutely
Did they want to fix it? Absolutely not

Just to remind u guys. When gchibbibjob tried to ruin economy and released an explanation forum post. In all of this wall of text they didnt say simple “sorry” EVEN ONCE.

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Anyways I already addressed this earlier. It’s lose-lose regardless of ordnance