Kfir C.10 (B60) - The final upgrade

If you’ve spent enough time on the internet, there are indeed individuals who are willing to lie or falsify things for some attention (cough cough doctored images such as the ones in the Kfir 2000 suggestion thread)

I have no doubt in my mind altering or copying some game files isn’t much of a moral line for them to cross…

All they have to do is give it the same radar as the American F-15C MSIP II so we can have a TWS mode and HMD radar locking and I’m sure it’ll all be fine.

Also allowing the Baz to have Derby’s on the outer wing pylons would be nice, as they’re much better than Aim-120s for dogfights or super close range snap shots. Just having two of them would be quite nice.

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Kfir C.10 basic at 13.7 with Elta EL/M-2032 radar, armed 4x Python 3 & Python 4 and 4x Derby

I don’t want lack Python 4

Kfir C.10 Blk 60 armed 4 IR AAM & 4 active radar homing and small countermeasures like Kfir C.10 but fitted ELTA ELM-2052 AESA radar and enable Python 5

It’s true Kfir C.10 Blk 60 3rd gen airframe but advanced fire control radar, domestic israel precision-guided munition and IR AAM

I predict Kfir C.10 Blk 60 battle rating 14.7 higher 4th gen fighter with medium-range active radar homing missile but similar to lightweight 4++ gen fighter aircraft with AESA radar

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Up to 72 countermeasures.

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AFAIK it keeps the same countermeasures system as the previous Kfir variants, which means 36. Where did you get 72 from?

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Well I see I ain’t changing your mind, but I guess this will age quite well when it does come…

Like man the max BR we have is 13.7 and the F-15C is literally better than it in almost every way my guy… why the hell do you think it would ever be 14.7???
(Also the “precision guided ordnance” won’t matter for Air RB)

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I’ve seen pictures of a 2nd set of bucket.

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Doesn’t Israel already have like 2?

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Looking at one of the attached images, yes it does indeed appear as though the countermeasures count is doubled, however gaijin won’t accept images as sources. (There’s already a few faked/doctored images of the Kfir C10 out there, especially this exact variant. Not saying it’s fake, but we’ll need confirmation on this.)
We’ll need to find documentation proving the count is 72…
@Surbaissemaxxing I SUMMON THEE
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The image you show

Indicates a larger amount of countermeasures than the previous variants of the Kfir, can you find any documentation relating to this? It would be HUGE if it can get double the CMs as sadly gaijin doesn’t tend to accept images as sources

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That is one of the images yes.
I’ve seen about a dozen, one was claimed to be C12, others obviously C10.


This BTW was one of them.
Hard to photoshop moving video.

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In my opinion, BR 14.3 (Air AB, Air RB & Air SB) because modern AESA radar better modern pulse doppler radar and Python 5 great flare resistance on 3rd gen fighter aircraft

This 3rd gen fighter aircraft similar to early 4+ gen fighter aircraft with AESA radar

Domestic israel precision-guided munition SPICE series very good for ground RB

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Israel currently has:

The Kfir Canard at 11.3
(It has 2 Aim-9Gs and a Phantom engine, so quite powerful and potent at its BR)
The Kfir C.2 at 11.7
(Has larger Canards, a slightly worse engine, and 2 Python 3s/goofy Aim-9Ls)
The Kfir C.7 at 12.0
(Has the same bigger canards at the C.2, Has the best engine of all 3, and have 4x Python 3s/goofy Aim-9Ls)

The Kfir C.10 (block 60) is the variant proposed in this suggestion.
(It would have a Multimode AESA Radar, the previous variants don’t and only have a Radar rangefinder. It would have HMD, the Derby ARH missile, the *Python 4 (super nutty missile, would be the best air to air IR missile ingame) Laser Guided Bombs and a Targeting pod, a modern RWR, and much more I can’t think of off the top of my head.

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It will not be getting the Python 5 when it arrives. I can guarantee you that.

I also have a feeling gaijin won’t model AESA for the time being… I think we even have a PESA radar on the Super Etendard ingame, yet it doesn’t function as such.

Yes, but that’s ground RB. Besides even if the plane only had those ordnance types I have a feeling that equates to about ~13.0 in ground RB or even lower. If it has split BRs this won’t matter in the slightest my friend.

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Can you pretty plez gimme a link to that video :P
(It kinda looks like one of the promotional vids I came across once, but can’t quite tell.)

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It’s the video in the OP’s post.
Last spoiler.

I read through ALL of OP’s initial post when I read

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I see, I knew it was familiar haha

And yes I’ve read the entire post myself, however I skipped the video since when I played it, I realized I had seen it like 2 years ago when I was first researching the aircraft and its capabilities myself.

I also tend not to rely on/pay too much attention to images for info regarding capabilities, as the documentation is a much better/reliable source man.

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It can be seen in the video in the sources

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If you believe this to be enough of a source for gaijin to accept and include, would you mind adding it to the suggestion? Its an improvement over other Kfir variants and probably something that should be made apparent in the suggestion post.

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Sure, i planned adding other stuff aswell that ChileanThunder found which will also benefit the Kfir C.10, to be specific, the Block 60, as apperently it can also carry I-Derby, but I’ll edit it now, give it a sec.

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Pantsir tracking radar is PESA I think.
Within current radar framework, easy implementation of PESA/AESA radars would be TWS with bit less range, but scans 10-20 times per second. Then if Gaijin decides to model jumping frequencies and wave encryption, they could just display such radar as “?”, as they already backed off from older RWRs not picking up MPRF/HPRF radars.

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But it doesn’t act any different ingame as a PESA. The only noticeable thing is that the tracking radar band can only be detected by the most modern heli RWRs, and no plane ingame can detect a lock from it, given just how modern that radar band is.

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