Thank you.
So, an improved KAPS. In which case I wasn’t entirely wrong when I said "a slightly modified version of the KAPS’.
They will have a different name and appearance, the original KAPS as we know it has been completely canceled.
I cannot comment about the hull but isn’t someone straight up measured thickness of K2’s turret ? @Til_Dovre_Faller’s values are matching with that guy’s measurement, why do you think it is not accurate ?
You seem to be confusing actual armour performance with armour thickness in this case.
His KE & CE values are all higher than the best estimates provided by singnificantly more trustworthy organisations & individuals.
As @_David_Bowie stated;
It originally started with the South Korean National Assembly. Based on South Korean military data, there was a controversy about the lack of protection against the Bulsae-5 (licensed Kornet) missile from North Korea. At the time, the Bulsae-5 was estimated to penetrate 1000-1200 mm.
This is a Kornet ATGM equivalent; as K2’s protection against it was brought into question, and values presented by the thread’s OP are as follows:
Ca. 800–900mm RHA vs KE for turret
Ca. 1500–1600mm RHA vs HEAT for turret
Ca. 600–700mm RHA vs KE for hull
Ca. 1200–1400mm RHA vs HEAT for hull
Are basically fantasy. Not only is the real life K2 susceptible to the Kornet (per both SKNA & the Polish military community in the know-how, such as Jarosław Wolski who’s in contact with the Polish Army), the best estimate we’ve got on the KE protection is immunity to the K276 APFSDS, which by all measures is only at 3BM-60s level, or slightly below it (meaning at 2km distance it will perforate only ~550mm’s of RHA in a best case scenario), this is the threshold to use when estimating K2’s armour capability.
This was provided by Jarosław Wolski/Militarysta himself:
A more realistic estimate in this case would be;
Turret; ~1000 - 1100mm RHA vs CE; ~600 - 650mm RHA vs KE
Hull; ~900mm RHA vs CE; ~550mm RHA vs KE.
(Adjusting for the fact the hull’s armour LoS is less than the turret’s).
If the OP changed his estimates from performance against CE & KE threats to armour thickness then yes, they’d be pretty accurate.
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Precisely, I was talking about thickness, I only read the table below and missed protection values. Sorry about that, its on me.
Thank you for the values, is there any sources I could cite, could you please link them if you. I would like the use them on my Altay suggestions since frontal protection seems to pretty much the same with K2.
i foiund these stat from various sources, but they are only approximately. this protection aginst heat/kinetic, wich i wrote are from someone that “calkulated it” were better than nothing at the time.
(hard to explain)
considering that many other vehiles i have been looking at, have much of the protection classified i believe there is a simlar case here
Altay uses armor developed by ROKETSAN. Samyang provided the technology, but it may be different.
K2 armor should be better then the naked T-80U.
IRRC, they uses some of the elements that took from T-80u like using ceramic and the layout might share some commons can be expected.
Aint no way that armor can with stand 3BM59 or any NATO equivilent but i expected the CE is nearly or at best, equal to modern Chobham/IBD’s NERA.
Their option for ERA is the thing that we blind, much harder to find info about ERA they uses.
Don’t. Altay’s turret protection will be significantly different from K2s. Based on what I’ve seen, its turret modules are thicker than K2s by a pretty significant amount (may even exceed 1 meter in Line-of-Sight thickness). The hull armour module itself also seems to be larger.
It also uses a different composite package (a domestic development), as such you cannot use K2s armour values as a base for Altay’s.
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Sweden needs another top tier?
No need.
Trust me comrade, we are suffering so badly
We will send meatballs as a bribe
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